| August 31, 1998 |
| August 27, 1998 |
cEvin Key
La, Ca USA -
| August 27, 1998 |
what's new for the next year? well...i wanted to have some page updates done by now, but stuff always takes longer than ya think it will. so far i'm pleased with the way things are going and there should be a updated look and perhaps a new feature or two soon.
now it's my turn to thank you the reader. this page could not have lasted as long as it has without your help. my heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. let's do it again for another year...

| August 26, 1998 |
cEv says that a lot of/most of the samples contained here were used by skinny puppy or download at some point or another.
also sounds like some of the vocal samples come from cev's travels in jamaica. ok, so as i listen to more of this, i recognize a bunch of the sounds from songs. this is pretty neat. heehee...
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... hadnt even come to the "loops" portion of the CD when i wrote that first email...
what can i say? fucking wow!
some of the best loops from sp/dl 's best songs... fuck yes! drums, synth lines, etc etc... extreme wierdness. quite cool.
to just hear the individual sections by themselves is really really impressive...
| August 24, 1998 |
But inevitably, Bedside Toxicology will be filed in record stores under "Pigface" or "Skinny Puppy". Maybe even in the second marked "Ministry". After all, if you listen to the rock press, you'd think that Martin and Ogre got their industrial-rock merit badges participating in the Ministry tour that spawned the 1990 live album In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up.
sorry to wreck your thread , but this is nonsense.
subconscious
Mon Oct. 12 Burlington, VT - Toast (all ages)
Tue Oct. 13 Montreal, PQ - Cabaret (18+)
Wed Oct. 14 Toronto, ONT - Opera House (all ages)
Thu Oct. 15 London, ONT - Call the Office (all ages)
Fri Oct. 16 Pontiac, MI - 7th House (18+)
Sun Oct. 18 Cincinnati, OH - Bogart's Front Room (all ages)
Tue Oct. 20 Boston, MA - Middle East (18+)
Wed Oct. 21 Philadelphia, PA - Upstairs at Nicks (21+)
Thu Oct. 22 New York City, - Wetlands (all ages)
Fri Oct. 23 Washington, DC - Bayon (18+)
Sat Oct. 24 Charlotte, NC - Tremont Street (16+)
Sun Oct. 25 Chapel Hill, NC - Cat's Cradle (all ages)
Tue Oct. 27 Myrtle Beach, SC - House of Blues (all ages)
Wed Oct. 28 Orlando, FL - House of Blues (all ages)
Thu Oct. 29 Tampa, FL - State Theatre (all ages) (unconfirmed)
Fri Oct. 30 Jacksonville, FL - Fat Cat Music Halle (all ages)
(unconfirmed)
Sun Nov. 01 Atlanta, GA - Cotton Club (all ages) (unconfirmed)
Mon Nov. 02 New Orleans - Howlin' Wolf, (unconfirmed)
Tue Nov. 03 Austin, TX - Backroom, (unconfirmed)
or Austin, TX - Stubbs/La Zona Rosa, (unconfirmed)
Wed Nov. 04 Dallas, TX - Trees, (unconfirmed)
or
Dallas, TX - Trees/Lizard Lounge, (unconfirmed)
Fri Nov. 06 Lawrence, KS - Bottleneck, (unconfirmed)
Sat Nov. 07 St.Louis, - Galaxy, (unconfirmed)
Sun Nov. 08 Milwaukee, - Rave Bar, (unconfirmed)
Tue Nov. 10 Minneapolis, - 7th St. Entry, (unconfirmed)
Wed Nov. 11 Chicago, IL - Metro, (18+) (unconfirmed)
Fri Nov. 13 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theatre, (all ages)
Sat Nov. 14 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theatre, (all ages)
Sun Nov. 15 Boulder, CO - Fox Theatre, (unconfirmed)
or
Fort Collins, CO - Aggie Theatre, (unconfirmed)
Tue Nov. 17 Salt Lake City, UT - DV-8, (unconfirmed)
Thu Nov. 19 Phoenix, AZ - Gibsons, (unconfirmed)
Fri Nov. 20 Los Angeles, CA - Roxy
or
Los Angeles, CA - El Rey Theatre, (unconfirmed)
Sat Nov. 21 Los Angeles/Las Vegas - 2nd show option/HuntridgeTheatre,
(unconfirmed)
Sun Nov. 22 San Francisco, CA - Fillmore/Maritime Hall, (unconfirmed)
Mon Nov. 23 Palo alto, - The Edge, (unconfirmed)
Tue Nov. 24 Portland, OR - La Luna, (all ages) (unconfirmed)
Wed Nov. 25 Seattle, - Showbox, (unconfirmed)
Thu Nov. 26 Vancouver, - Starfish Room, (unconfirmed)
Sat Nov. 28 Mexico City, (unconfirmed)
| August 21, 1998 |
Skinny Puppy: Seminal Electro-Goths Get Remix Treatment
The say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but with ReMix Dys Temper, a 12-track collection of re-interpreted sonic explorations originally created by one of the most influential industrial bands of the '80s. As a way to pay homage to the '80s darkwave pioneers, a group of the new breed of "techno-influenced" artists re-mixed songs for this collection, including mixmeisters Josh Wink, Guru, former NIN drummer Chris Vrenna, God Lives Underwater, and the Deftones.
The Canadian-based electro-goths -- who anticipated darkwave faves like NIN, Marilyn Manson and Gravity Kills, and who actually teamed up with Ministry's influential leader Al Jourgensen on their 1989 album Rabies -- earned critical acclaim for its groundbreaking electronic music, but Skinny Puppy's material was too severe for mainstream tastes. After nearly fifteen years and several line-up changes (original member Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose in 1995), the band broke up in 1995 before their final neo-mystical album, The Process, was released.
Skinny Puppy vocalist Nivek Ogre describes the soon-to-be-released collection as a "testament to what was Skinny Puppy," and makes an appearance on the album with a newly recorded version of their classic slice of darkwave drama, "Smothered Hope." The album's track listing is as follows:
"Smothered Hope" -- Ogre & Mark Walk
"Killing Game" -- Autechre
"Chainsaw" -- Josh Wink
"Testure" -- God Lives Underwater
"Addiction" -- Günter Shulz of KMFDM
"Worlock" -- Rhys Fulber
"Tin Omen" -- Adrian Sherwood
"Assimilate" -- Chris Vrenna
"Spasmolytic" -- Deftones
"Love In Vein" -- Neotropic
"Rodent" -- Ken Marshall
"Censor" -- Guru
ReMix Dys Temper will be available on October 20 via Nettwerk Records.
-Jennifer Schwartz
I didn't realize DRG was an original member! God, I must be a fucking moron, thanks Jennifer ...
| August 19, 1998 |
| August 18, 1998 |
| August 17, 1998 |
the second subcon sampler will possibly feature, among other things:
a couple unreleased puppy songs from the process sessions... complete with ogrevox. these are the songs that were supposed to be on the Candle single. pretty cool songs. cev says "i dont think these are really the best of the bunch, but lots of people want to hear them...
'Morphedus' on 'We Came to Dance Vol. 10' is an unreleased 'Candle' single. i hope we don't see the same track again. not 'cause it was a poor track or anything, don't get me wrong, i just want a completely new track. for cEvin's comment on this track check out the oldest archive, august 25th '97 (see the FAQ also).
cEvin key solo... analogue gear going schizo. very odd. but most excellent.
cev says "its just this wall [of old analogue gear] running with itself. No
samples. Its really quite wierd but I like it."
autechre remixes of download. not positive about this one. i remember
hearing something about it 2 months ago or so, but plans may have changed.
havent heard it yet.
unreleased doubting thomas. originally done for lalalahumansteps. was lost
for a while. finally found on reel to reel tape. good song. tho, as memory
serves, it had no samples in it... kc says "Just found this on reel to reel
tape. I've been looking for it for a while. No one in LA had the equipment
to read the digital encoding so I had to send it up to Vancouver to have it
put onto DAT. Its one of those songs that you finish and then somehow
forget about, but then eventually remember it, find it, and are glad you
could find it."
lalalahumansteps is a Vancouver dance troupe SP did some music for. you can find another lalalahumansteps mix on the 'inquisition' single.
unreleased teargarden. from the Tired Eyes sessions... very electronic.
Edward's voice sounded absolutely beautiful. had some really killer synth
patches. c says "this is an odd one for teargarden I guess, but I really
like it. I love when you find a tape that you havent heard in a long time,
and you're amazed at what you hear."
all things subject to change.
This CD is available for $8 (+ shipping) from ComFour Distribution.
Their webpage is :
http://www.com4.com
| August 13, 1998 |
Armand S.
Nettwerk Productions
Vancouver, BC
Thursday, August 13th, 1998
" At times that which is wished for becomes a dirty, never departing dream beneath the fingernails. From scratching just what's under the surface to discovering the cruelty all around the melody, a certain type of sanctuary manifested itself. A place just as twisted as what was exposed.
"e;Nothing was innocent. Therapist, manipulator - No difference. Mediation contributing to division, the manipulator becoming the pawn of the outside party. All bumps and warts, bent out of sight, night becomes dark as crack cornered spite. No one leaves without something begging to be said. No rock unturned. No better way to deal. A card bearing queen of spades digging the graves of insecure souls without dealing with herself. As if the joker would. A calm cryptic revision. We can't separate truth from the memory...A testament to what was Skinny Puppy."
-Ogre/Skinny Puppy 1998
Skinny Puppy, one of the most influential industrial/electronic bands of their time, have had twelve specially selected tracks of theirs re-mixed by a new generation of musicians for an upcoming autumn release called:
ReMix Dys Temper
The track listing has been confirmed and the list of contributors to this project are as follows:
1. Smothered Hope - Ogre &
Mark Walk (Ruby)
2.Killing Game - Autechre
3. Chainsaw - Josh Wink
4. Testure - God Lives
Underwater
5. Addiction - Gunter Shulz of
KMFDM
6. Worlock - Rhys Fulber
7. Tin Omen - Adrian Sherwood
8. Assimilate - Chris Vrenna
9. Spasmolytic - Deftones
10. Love In Vein - Neotropic
11. Rodent - Ken Marshall
12. Censor - Guru
The album is slated to be released Tuesday, October 20th on Nettwerk Records in both Canada and the U.S., and to round-off this project, Steven R. Gilmore will be returning to design the album artwork.
| August 12, 1998 |
b.d. scheffel sent me the latest issue of his zine, digital intersect. it's got interviews with 0gre, not breathing, hanzel und gretyl and legendary pink dots. all in all, it's the best zine i've read in a while. sure it's not a slick glossy production, but if it was would it be a zine?
i won't print the interviews here for now. the zine is still out and you can pick it up if you like. normally i don't care about reprinting interviews, but that may now just apply to larger mag's. that being said, here's the first q&a from the ogre interview:
The painful, nagging doppelganger dancing circles in the mind has always asserted a need to twist the knife a bit further and outdo it own double. This said it becomes obvious that at some point you reconcile and stop torturing yourself about it. I have never enjoyed writing more than now. The struggle that mixed up drugs with some sort artistic tool has given way to a certain freedom and venom. The control, at one time lost in the midst of inner circle salvos, has focused on a target outside and very real. The space is filled with many strange memories linking lucid and current truths. It all had and continues to have great meaning from exploration, for myself.
| August 10, 1998 |
obvious question, is the below post(s) fake? i think not, here's why: about a month ago i had a e-mail forwarded to me that was originally from Ogre. i was asked to keep it private, so i did. it had the same e-mail addy as the one in the usenet messages. it also matches with the addy used on the e-mail i posted on June 22nd. that being said, i think it's the genuine article.
if you want to read the whole message thread (which is kinda amusing) and don't have Usnet access, you can always use dejanews. below are the two posts ogre made regarding the article in this month's AP:
just to add clarity to the issue...Mr. sullivan should spend a bit more time at reading prior to posting a quotation which, obviously, came from martin. Sheep>Invisible...get the connection.
re:guards
ogre
> john sullivan wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I can't remember who said it, but they seemed to be pointing the
> > finger at Download when saying how industrial has died because
> > it's become computer/studio dorks taking over with all the new
> > version 2.5 fuck it software....or something to that effect. Bitter
> > perhaps? But Ogre did give thumbs up to Sheep On Drugs, claiming
> > they are doing cooler stuff than anyone with a computer that
> > is a decade old.
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Subject: Re: Ogre/Atkins article
From: Ohgrr la-bas@ix.netcom.com
Date: 1998/08/07
Newsgroups: alt.fan.skinny
Who's bitter Now? .... ; )
My height is in your own mind.
I'm just tired of being misquoted.
Why not just give it away?
re:guards " ! "
ogre
john sullivan wrote:
> It will never happen again, your highness. Fuck your stupid
> article.
>
> Anyone want to buy my copy of Rx? I don't think I want it anymore.
> I'd rather listen to Download.
>
> --john
| August 7, 1998 |
Martin Atkins
--------------------
1. Fatboy Slim's Better Living Through Chemistry
2. Psychic TV
3. John Everall / Tactile
Ogre
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1. YMO's Technodelic
2. Brian Eno's The Shutov Assembly
3. Nico's The End
4. Billie Holiday's Billie's Blues
5. Newt's -273c
| August 6, 1998 |
on the same subject i'll pose a question to you the reader...where is this page most lacking? or... what would you like to see (or see more of)? links, reviews, whatever... please mail me with 'suggestion' in the subject line.
i'd also like to point out that $99 for a professional sampling disc is not priced to high. for a consumer disc, perhaps. thanks for the point logickal.
| August 3, 1998 |

Spybey: Yeah..
INVEIN: Was there any hard feelings involved in it?
Spybey: No...I've tried...but..the whole history of Download was littered with accidental happenings. There was never visage, that it was a band. You know I'm sure, somebody decided it was at some point. But there was so much coming and going of people, and it was really only Cevin and I that were the stable members, the sort of nucleus. And by the end of that tour where we had spent 4 months together, and at the end of that tour I had no more motivation to make another download record. I was just so tired of the process of doing that kind of thing, and I wanted to take time off from it. The motivation never came back to me, and I wanted to work on what I was doing. So I started that process last January, and recorded the basis of Piss Front back then. The decision for me to leave was mutual, they were going in a direction where they didn't feel that my "aggression" or "passion" in what I do, contributed to their wants, and I certainly wasn't interested in being an accessory to minimal techno music. I didn't feel able to do it. It's that simple.
INVEIN: I'm assuming you've heard, III ?
Spybey: No I haven't actually. I heard some in the studio when it was being made.
INVEIN: Basically what I get is that it's minimal techno yes, and that the feeling isn't there without you. Do you feel that could be the case? I mean if you sat down and heard what they'd been working on before you touched anything, how did you feel about it before...
Spybey: Well..that wouldn't be fair for me to...well I couldn't simply aggree with you, but you know what I would say, is that when I used to go down to the studio, and they'd be working on III, it was clear that they weren't looking for the stanely pain aggression, and I thought that was a great mistake because the eyes of stanley pain was doing very well at the time. You know there we were..and we had sort of formula going, and I'm thinking "Why don't we explore that?" I would have wanted to do that, I would have wanted to take that sort of manaical thing to another level. I"m certainly not going to change the way I am, I don't think I'm a very mellow sort of person. I'm not really interested in music that tries to "chill people out," or "escape" from things. It's drivel to me, and I'm not saying that's what it's about, but I'm not interested in hippie chill out music. I'm interested in music that's confrontational, or that has got some sort of like undercurrent to it, so that you're not neccessarily sure of what's going on.
INVEIN: Yeah like not something to get high to...
Spybey: Yeah yeah..and that's a general thing in music anyway. The reason why that whole ambient scene turned me off eventually, because it was primarily associated with people who just wanted to take drugs and go to sleep. That to me is a waste of music.
| August 2, 1998 |


| July 30,1998 |
i didn't mention this before, perhaps 'cause it's stupid, but... i got a new (new to me) car just recently. it's a '94 BMW 325is. it's a sweet ride. it's rear wheel drive with a 189hp 6-inline engine. no CD payer yet, the only drawback. perhaps i'll throw up a scan of it sometime. love the car, now it's a joy to haul-ass to work every morning.
...and on a barely related note...kyle randall noticed the below listening to howard stern:
| July 29, 1998 |
Thanks,
Tina
"Involution: invoking the Law, setting the Law in motion. Giving a mental or spiritual treatment. Planting the seed of thought in the creative mind of the Universe. Involution is the creation of the concept. Evolution is the time or process it takes for the concept to become manifest. Involution is a concious act evolution is purely mechanical. INVOLUTION=CAUSE EVOLUTION=EFFECT"
| July 28, 1998 |

| July 26, 1998 |
Skinny Puppy's new "Skinned" sampling CD Skinny Puppy remix album info (more confirmed remixers) Skinny Puppy "Chainsaw Chokering" bootleg CD "We Came To Watch" PAL video compilation with a Skinny Puppy track (need more info) "Tyranny Off The Beat Volume 5" comp 2xCD with a Download track "Biosystems" comp CD with a Download track Rx "Bedside Toxicology" limited "fan edition" CD release KMFDM's upcoming album with Ogre
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The DAVE "RAVE" OGILVIE Discography has been updated with info on the following:
Orgy's "Candyass" CD with Rave's mixing
| July 24, 1998 |
| July 22, 1998 |
| July 21, 1998 |
| July 20, 1998 |
SKINNED
Skinny Puppy "SKINNED" Audio CD £59.95 inc VAT
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"Skinned" is the eagerly awaited first sample CD from the Canadian Techno, Industrial, Noise band Skinny Puppy. This CD is for the over 18's only... Distortion, noise, metal, shock, horror. destruction, doom, warfare...they are all here in abundance. Skinned gives you the rare opportunity to access the private sample vaults of Skinny Puppy and what a worthwhile trip it is...The samples defy rational explanation, they are simply the hardest sounds you are ever likely to hear. Put your ear defenders on and sit back in your armchair ready for an aural assault... You'll not believe the aggression emanating from your speakers ! We have pulled back the skin and exposed Skinny Puppy naked for the first time !
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and here is what Time & Space sent me when I inquired about this being a DIFFERENT CD than the Mixman sample CD: 'Skinned' is due for release within the next 2 months and is a full = pro-audio sample library which will contain a lot more than the Soundiscs.
July 19, 1998
RITALIN & DOWNLOAD life after Skinny Puppy and inside the big pages mazagine was a 2 page artricle on the groups and lil quotes from cEvin and ogre and atkins etc.. in the middle of the article they had printed: Download (latest b/w download pic of the 3 n cEvin in middle)
PUP DADDY & THE FAMILY
Ritalin (pic of ogre's eyes closed while holdin ritalin and atkins with
glasses lookin forward)
and on page 2 are '86 pics of dwayne n ogre n cevin
as far as the interview....im gonna work on it
| July 9, 1998 |
| July 8, 1998 |
why just a few days?? well, i'll be off to Maine for a while (bar harbor). if any of you hip maine folks know of someplace cool to go or such. drop me a line.
one last comment for now: why has tampa slid downhill??? is it me or what?? i loved tampa when i lived there, but i guess ya can't go home again (snif). even my favorite record store (the alternative record store) moved/closed. anyone know what's up with that??
| June 30, 1998 |
...and not only is one of the most pleasent people I have ever met, he is also one of the tallest. Since i am 5'9", he towered over me. A guess would be 6'5"....
...cEvin is totally oblivious to the fact (until i told him) that no USA stores are carring the Mixman soundsource CDS from Time & Space and that they have no record of it's release. ...
| June 29, 1998 |
| June 25, 1998 |
The interview will be published in our Summer issue which will be published in mid-July.
| June 24, 1998 |
| June 22, 1998 |
... as im sure you are aware Rx "Bedside toxicology" has been released on invisible. I start working this summer with Mark Walk on the resurrected WELT (renamed) project. Im excited about this. Should be an interesting piece technologically. Mark and I have also re recorded "Smothered Hope" for the upcoming Nettwerk re-mix record. no plans to tour until more material is gathered.
regards
ogre
T6F6W6O6 wrote:
> Are you gonna tour for the new upcoming Ritalin alblum?>
thanks..Dave
also, it looks like Ryan Moore (LPD, Tear Garden, Twilight Circus) will be in LA next week to finish up the new Tear Garden album with cEvin. can't wait for that one.
| June 21, 1998 |
if you like the below clip and want to hear more you can check out his tape: 'Into the Machine' on digital intersect music distro. the cost is only $3 (us), a small price to pay.
OGRE: Well, one thing that I can say is that's probably the closest to the truth without being the truth that anybody could've said. Because Skinny Puppy to me, and I don't know if Cevin will agree, has always been on the verge of breaking up. If I believed in rumors I'd be dead of a heroine overdose. It's a lot of talk and talk can only be justified when it's actually seen. I think there's a lot of confusion right now and those things should be sorted out. I was in a state which isn't necessarily cause by this band but is caused by my life where I'm constantly looking at myself and hoping for happiness and thinking certain things were happiness and finding that it's not all what Walt Disney said it was going to be.
robert shea blasted off a group of reviews from various sources regarding phil westerns new CD. check 'em all out here below is a clip from greg clow's review.
| June 18, 1998 |
now the obvious question: what does this have to do with SP, Download or whatever???? besides being huge fans of Skinny Puppy and the related projects, the answer is twofold. The two samples below are currently unofficial remixes of Skinny Puppy's 'yo-yo scrape' and download's 'mzeo b.' the songs themselves are in music limbo as to when/where/if ever they will be released. Currently, hopes are we'll see 'yo-yo scrape' on the nettwerk remix album. Please note: these songs were taken from my horrible tape player at my home, they do not reflect the true sound quality of the songs themselves.
Also, as noted on June 1st, we'll see dropstaR doing work with mark spybey on the subcon. sampler two (there's yer second reason) and on other future unnamed DVOA projects.
| June 17, 1998 |
you can order HERE or go to http://www.theweathermen.com/order or call it in 972-418-0931
SKINNY PUPPY SKINLESS(1998)FRONT:
Has a wicked drawing of 4 mutant people(alien looking creatures)each one is either screaming or holding some sort of weapon, looks like they were just skinned. It is a collage and has the skinny puppy logo in the lop left corner
BACK: Has the Skinny puppy logo and around the logo in circular fashionare the words "skinny puppy"
COLORS: Black shirt with darker colors on front and flourecent colorson back
SKINNY PUPPY BLOOD RED(1998)
FRONT: Has the words "SKINNY PUPPY" on the front in an oval in a blood type writing.
BACK: Has the Skinny Puppy "SP" logo
COLORS: Black shirt with red logo on front and red and green on back
SKINNY PUPPY SCREAMING(1998)
FRONT: Says "skinny puppy" at the top with with "SP" logo. underneath it are what appears to be octopuss or snakes with lots of mouths openscreaming... COOL!
COLORS: Black shirt with reds, greens and browns.
| June 16, 1998 |
oh yea...any of you hear about those crazy fires in north florida????? well, that's right where i live! up until recently i could see the fire from my house, what fun. but i live and my house stands, will wonders never cease. in all seriousness, firefighters are tops in my book. as far as public servants go, i'll take a fireman any day over a cop, they actually HELP people.
| June 14, 1998 |
lastly, todd send me some info on the cEvin Key remix on a scar tissue disc. i got this a while back for some reason, i've never give it much of a listen. thankfully he did, below are more of todd's thoughts:
"Cascade (cEvin Key/Subconscious Mix) 4:53
Also, there's a little description in the CD liner notes by Steve Watkins of Scar Tissue, pertaining to each track. Here is his writeup on the Key remix:
"As with most of the artists here, I sent cEvin Key a DAT containing many samples that were used on our last CD, "TMOTD", and some that were never used. The instructions I gave him (wow...I gave instructions to cEvin Key....damn, never thought that would happen) were to use whatever samples he wanted but to focus on those from the song "Cascade" and to make the remix "club-friendly", which means no noise-collage stuff. Well, the remix he turned in definitely has his "sound" and it is rhythm/percussion based, but I swear I can't identify a single sample of ours. I suspect that he tweaked them so heavily that they are now unrecognizable to me. (If anyone thinks they can identify a Scar Tissue sound, please email me). I thank cEvin immensely for allowing us to attach his work to our CD."
--from the liner notes to SCAR TISSUE's "Rebuild" CD (1998 21st Circuitry 21C.35)
SCAR TISSUE webpage: http://www.jps.net/devices/
| June 12, 1998 |
I apologize to those of you looking for the Ogre interview on Virtually Canadian. There was a problem in recording the initial live broadcast, but I'm told the 30 minute interview w/ music will be posted some time today (Friday). Go to http://virtuallycanadian.comand select the Exclaim Hour show on the finder. Details of the show are found on the Exclaim Electronics link from the Exclaim Hour page. If you need the Real Audio to hear the file you can download it from the VC index page. The interview will be published in the July issue of Exclaim, out in Canada during the last week of June, and then will be posted at http://www.exclaim.caduring the 1st week of July.
| June 10, 1998 |
| June 9, 1998 |
KY admin is about someone ogre strongly dislikes. though "not who you might think"
Ogre and Mark Walk are going to re-record huge chunks of the WELT album before it comes out. Ogre and Walk are remixing Dig It, and SmoHope for the SP remix album. the master tapes were stolen/lost so they're totaly reconstructing them.
ogre dosn't want to reunite w/ cEvin
and a intersting bit a quote from ogre
"The last Download I listened to was TEOSP, which struck me because it was a lot of out-takes from the process coupled with stuff Dwane did back in '93"
| June 7, 1998 |
Industrial-rock vets creatively invert the genre.
This collaoration between former Skinny Puppy frontman Ogre and dervish drummer Martin Atkins is the industrial-rock album for people bored with the genre. Toxicology harbors interesting textures – rhythmic bombast; short, sharp tape scratches; hydraulic found sound; slasher-movie music; pastoral English countryside settings – and no tired power chords or samples cadged from movies rented from Blockbuster. Ogre uses very little vocal processing, concentrating on vocal melodies instead of falling back on the angry-parrot-with-distortion tricks he utilized over a decade ago. At his most lyrical, his delivery is reminiscent of Robyn Hitchcock's – and to think that for all these years we thought Ogre was a machine.
The songs seem deceptively skeletal, yet they unfold into tense atmospheres. A cover of '60s pop icon Petula Clark's "Downtown" is reduced to an ugly trawl, yet the version of Syd Barrett's "Scarecrow" is whimsically straight. "Crackhead Waltz" is disturbed merry-go-round music last heard in John Wayne Gacy's crawlspace. "For Dusts And Mists" closes the album, giving time for the stalker sitting behind you to finish the job. There are no dancefloor-friendly tracks on this album; don't you have enough of that stuff anyway?
The industrial genre needs more stylistic inversions like this in order for the music to rise above the hollow counterculture gestures. Bedside Toxicology is the result of two been-there, done-that artists who know how to use a calendar.
(Invisible; dist. By Caroline)
Jason Pettigrew
| June 6, 1998 |
ITS TIME :
time to legislate the world trade value for THE INTERNATIONAL PRICE...
HOLLAND and VANCOUVER are stabalized at a fair and sensible PRICE
THAT PRICE SHOULD BE no more than 10-12 dollars a gram US.
People are paying nearly twice the value of gold for POT here.
IT IS CRAZY !
Proven as a non violent drug, which has it's benefits to society
Why are we legislating these moronic conditions to exist ?
THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE SOCIETY.
BIG BROTHER IS CONTROLLING YOU>
subconscious communications
| June 4, 1998 |
| June 3,1998 |
Believe it or not, 'The Escapist' is a hard album to get a grip on. It's not that the songs are hard to follow or enjoy. The difficulty I found in assessing this album was classifying it. Is it techno, industrial, ambient or what? Because of it's similarity in sound, on the surface, with Download's 'III" it's even harder to classify. Don't let my confusion deter you, this album is great.
The album begins with the track 'Hampi,' it's a good example of the overall album itself. It's a flowing, drifting, groove of a song that sounds like it could be a Download or Off and Gone track. After a few listens the subtlety of the track begins to take form. The bits of real percussion and excellent timing lend depth to the song, and once you notice that, behold; it's no longer similar to Download. Many of the songs are like that. At first listen, they sound like something you've heard before, but upon subsequent listens the individuality of Philth's effort is apparent.
Now that's not to say this album is in completely new territory. In fact the end of the track 'Last Moments' is almost straight from Download 'III.' A good side effect of listening to 'The Escapist' is it makes it much easier to distinguish Philth's work on the Download albums.
Overall the album is best taken as a whole. There are a few standout tracks like 'Hampi,' 'Sun Is Round,' and 'Full Moon.' But it's best enjoyed as a complete work. The balance and pacing is second to none, going from BPM and ambient and back again smoothly. I also found this album to be more emotional for lack of a better word. The occasional use of subdued vocals may lend to this feeling. Whatever the reason, some of these songs convey real emotion/feeling.
The addition of real instruments, such as flutes and violins, is also very well done. As is the overall recording quality. I also found the artwork and photos interesting and fitting.
Now, who's this album for? Did you like Download's 'III?' If so, run out and buy this right now. IMHO, it's better or at the very least as good. Do you like Off and Gone? Again, get it now. Are you a Skinny Puppy or Rx fan? Take a chance, I'll bet you'll end up liking it.
| June 1,1998 |
the band DVOA is working with is called 'dropstar.' it consists of c.duanE gammill and alex johnson. these guys were nice enough to drop me a tape of some of their sp/download remixes. frankly, i was blown away when i heard them. great stuff, i shit you not. look for some samples of 'em soon. anywhoo...below is the quote from the DVOA page:
| May 31,1998 |
how is Rx pronounced????? is is 'r x' or 'ritalin' or what? well...there is no real answer exactly. below are gnat's comments:
| May 29,1998 |
| May 27,1998 |
below is most of rorschach's message to me. i found the part about ogre and walk remixing for the nettwerk sp remix album and that ogre's not ready to work with cEvin very interesting. for the full interview, buy the hard copy.
don't expect to be seeing a Skinny Puppy reunion. Ogre says he is not interested at this time, however expect him and Mark Walk to remix on the Skinny Puppy remix disk, but not under the name WELT, as it has been discovered another band is using the name. Ogre also says he wants workwith Walk on stuff, but walk is working on the new Ruby album.
| May 24,1998 |
SKINNY PUPPY SAMPLING CD just released on Time and Space /Zero Gravity UK
Includes mixman PC sequencing software and CD rom of sounds.
Also includes a full lengnth audio sampling CD. NOW IT's YOUR TURN !
Subconscious Sampler PART 2 Featuring unreleased tracks by Download , Skinny Puppy , Doubting Thomas , Tear Garden , Kone Dead Voices on Air , Philth , cEvin Key ,PlatEAU , Legendary Pink Dots Twilight circus , Tweaker , Involution. For NETTWERK SUMMER 98
SubConscious WEBSITE HAS MOVED TO http://www.jps.net/ckey
mike ghost has added more detail, that i skipped, about the skinny puppy mixman sample disc. below are some stats:
2nd CD= Audio, just audio with 52 Tracks running at approximately 44:34 minutes
there's talk on epilogue about a fan-made tribute/remix album. you can watch this page for info on what's going on and how you can get involved.
| May 23,1998 |
| May 22,1998 |
| May 21,1998 |
Buyer beware, there are not any 'real' Skinny Puppy samples on this disc! Do not expect to be able to pull sounds from 'Worlock' to make your own remix. There are quite a few of Skinny Puppy-ish sounds and perhaps an actual (or very close to) sample or two on the disc. For example there seems to be the an actual sample from the end of 'Convulsion.' This was a huge letdown.
The obvious question is: Why call it Skinny Puppy when there's no Skinny Puppy on the damn thing?!?!? Reason being, cEvin Key created a number of the samples. That would explain why many of the samples sound more like Download and Skinny Puppy. The rest of the disc was created by Zero-G. Who created what? I have no idea, but I suspect the majority was created/produced/touched up by Zero-G.
As to the program itself. Have you used Rebirth or Hammerhead or the like? If so, the Mixman LE (it comes with the disc) works like that. Is it professional quality? No way, don't even consider using it for something like that. Keep in mind the LE version is not the full version. The full version may be much better, but that's beyond the scope of this review. Basically it operates like this, it's quite simple, you pick the BPM's (beats per minute) you want the song to run at. Then load up the samples you wish to use. Then pick from one up to sixteen of the samples to run. You can interactively start and stop the samples at any time. There's also a handful of effects, like delay and reverb you can use. You can also import your own custom .WAV files. The Mixman itself uses a proprietary format for storing it's sound files called .TRK. So far I've not found any other program that can use or manipulate these files.
Upside? It is simple to use and with the sound library you can create right away. It's got a good number of drum, bass and keyboard samples. The samples themselves are pretty good, but them not being Skinny Puppy was quite a disappointment. And it should work well on most machines. I ran it on my P2-266 and a P-133 and it sounded fine on both.
From what I've seen of the LE version, all in all, Mixman is very 'been there, done that.' Add that to not using 'actual' Skinny Puppy samples makes this disc a hard purchase to justify. Overall I'd say pass on this.
| May 20,1998 |
Dave Armitage 6 picked up the Mixman SP disc and felt so moved to write a review. not that dave is wrong, but i'll post my review in a few hours, so don't think we disagree when you read 'em. whatever, check it out below:
Samples: Well they sound a bit more Downloadish to me than puppyish. Althoughthe basslines are classic puppy. Overall, all the samples are very technoish,but otherwise pretty cool. The cd also comes with an audio cd. The samplesconsist of Bass,cymbols,guitar,kicks,pads,Rythmic efx,sound efx,voice efx,chords,drum loops,hats,music efx,percussion,snares,synths,and zaps.Overall the only really puppy trademarked sounds that I've found are the basslines, and a couple of the signature, heavily distorted drums. Overall it'salot of fun to get your creative juices flowing.
The mixman itself is to me, really cool. I mean it has stereo quality andit's pretty easy to use. Also if you are like me and you are a musician, youcan make wav files out of your synths by plugging them into your soundcard andrecorded them through mixman.So if your like me and you don't like all thatdifficult sequencing stuff like Cubase and Cakewalk it's the way to go.I meanyou can make samples out of your own keyboards, drum machines etc.and add samples over it and spice up your tunes man!. Also it's an easy way to getthat "CD" sounding quality instead of that beat up amp you've been using forfive years.
My only complaint about mixman is this.If you alter your wav files,then the mixman cannot read them, so if you'regonna sample the X-files, don't change it up. Also it doesn't really work wellwith Rebirth, I mean I make a drum line up make it an audio file and I can'tput it into the mix ya know.
Well to all
B R A P O N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Armitage 6
"245 Trioxin"
The music is, well, bland at best. I just don't give a shitabout these bands (and most other bands in the so calledindustrial "scene"). Why do the vocalists for all of thesebands suck so bad? Besides, covering songs that are so great to begin with is really just silly ...
1. Frontline Assembly "Dead of Winter" (Hypothermic Mix) - typical FLA, could fit on any recent FLA album ...
2. Spahn Ranch "Dig It" - this is actually kind of interesting, they used some unusual instrumentation and decent programming instead of a guitar overload like I was expecting ... still sucks in comparison to the real thing though ...
3. Razed in Black "Assimilate" - metal Assimilate with cheese keys ...
4. The Electric Hellfire Club "Warlock (Truth Decay Version) - fairly close to the original, if you think Ogre can't sing then you really ain't gonna like the EHC guy ...
5. Pygmy Children "Tin Omen" - god, this is wretched. Kind of make's it dancy, but it sounds like a shitty noname garage-industrial band doing a SP cover ...
6. Leather Strip "Testure" - one of the best covers imo ... you've probably already heard the mp3 ... it's hard to make such a great song bad ...
7. Crocodile Shop "The Choke" - I can't remember the original well enough to compare, but this sounds pretty cheesy ...
8. Download "Download" - ah yes, this would be the reason I bought this pile of dung. Sounds pretty much like the studio version on LR, it's about 9:00 long and has a few different touches (like Spybey's vox in the last minute), but for the most part Key hit "play" on the DAT ...
9. Kill Switch...Klick "Addiction" - bland, really shitty vocals ...
10. Death Ride 69 "Tormentor" - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ... Oh man ... cyber-cheezed "electronica" Tormentor ...
11. Dead Voices on Air "Love in Vein" - bizarre ... Spybey whispering pitch-shifted vox over a typical DVOA backing ... bears little to no resemblance to the original ... not very good ...
12. Data Bomb "Ice Breaker" - cheese-o-rama ...
13. The Element "The Choke" - choke Dance Party USA ... cheese, horrible gothlike vox ...
Yep, this disc sucks alright. Do yourself a favor ... don't buythis. I fucked up. I should have known better. I thought the Download and DVOA tracks would be enough to warrant the purchase, but they really aren't ...
Fuck the pretenders ... go listen to the real thing instead.
| May 19,1998 |
Track listing / Time:
1 Scarecrow 1:42
2 K Y Re:amin 4:49
3 Reuptake 3:40
4 Downtown 4:57
5 Imago 4:20
6 Crackhead Waltz 3:02
7 The Daze 5:14
8 And When 4:27
9 Idle Contact 3:41
10 Exfoliate 5:14
11 For Dusts And Mists 4:37
Total Running Time: 45:43
Credits:
Produced by Martin Atkins
Additional post production by Chris Greene
Mix Engineers: Chris Greene and Scott Ramsayer
Violin on Downtown by Chris Greene
Additional Guitar on And When by Jason McNinch
Dobro guitar on Exfoliate by Jason McNinch
Additional Programming and Keyboards by Lee Bagman Fraser
"Scarecrow" starts this album, and is a complete throw off of how the rest of it sounds. It's basically just Ogre singing with an acoustic guitar. However, I believe I may have come to a conclusion as to why it sounds so different. The credits to the songs in the album say it was written by "s. Barrett", whom I'm assuming is the late ex-Pink Floyd singer, Syd Barrett. Now I know jack shit all about Syd Barrett but my hunch is this song originally sounds something like this possibly.
Next, or the song we all heard at the Invisible Records "Lowest Of The Low" tour (if you were there) that was playing along with the "Ritalin" or "Rx" video was "K Y Re:amin", and most people have said that it resembled "Asphole" (a song from Pigface's "Notes From Thee Underground" release, which Ogre also did the vocals for.) This song is quite straight forward, the usual Mr. Atkins type of percussion and a repetitive bassline to go along with Ogre almost talking the vocals until the chorus (so to say) kicks in, and his voice changes to a semi-screamy style as the percussion speeds up and gets a bit more complex. They do a lot with the vocals on this song, because in parts of this song there are people in the background humming a harmony along with delayed panned bits of rhythm.
After that comes "Reuptake," which is started with Ogre's vocals only and slowly twisted together darker multiple keyboard tracks and basic slow hammering bass kick beat (like from a drum machine.) From there the song progresses into a quicker tempo beat which Mr. Atkins probably crafted and delayed vocals. Watch out for the odd over powering distortion part to help the beat along for about 3 seconds, which is very effective in heightening the climax of the song. It then drops off, almost as if throwing you off a cliff with all parts coming to an abrupt hault except the vocals which continue a quiet-mellow harmony for about 10 seconds ending the song. Not to make another Pigface comparison, but when this song hits full tilt and starts moving, it reminds me of something from the "Fook" era, but the constant changes in the song stray away from the Pigface feel a tad.
"Downtown" follows next, and as you may have guessed it is a cover of the classic song Petula Clark once sung. Of course this version is nothing like the original though, the only similarities being the lyrics and at times them playing the riffs on keyboard, or guitar (which is under some neat effects and sounds awesome). I was very surprised to hear this, knowing the classic song and all, but it defently makes you want to smirk and play it for your parents. One thing that got me also, is that the vocals effects sound very close to the ones used for "Spasmolytic" (a Skinny Puppy song from the album Too Dark Park), minus the distortion. It's good to hear Ogre say "Downtown" once again though, even if it isn't in the same reference.
"Imago" is probably my favourite song of this album. It starts with delayed blunt noises hitting a number of times, and flows peacefully into singing "down in the back and around the corner," while I'm assuming it's Ogre who starts talking about how he "came to a conclusion" and "tasted something sweet." A basic kick drum thumping enters (like from a drum machine) and switches between that and Atkins drumming a straight forward beat. The rhythm stops and the blunt noises come back for a bit, and then you hear a guitar and just Ogre's voice repeating the same lines as earlier, and it all sharply kicks back in. While all this is going on you can hear trails of keyboard sounds. The song drops off once again, while the talking keeps going, as the vocals become loud and you hear "they tent to creep in and they destroy," that rings on delayed as guitar, keyboard and the noises come back and then stop to the guitar ending the song. That description may sound a bit confusing, but you'd have to hear the song to understand what I'm saying, I think.
"Crackhead Waltz" is probably the strangest song on the album. It is a heavy vocal song with bell type keyboard effects. Also, there are noises in the background that give a feel of a record playing backwards (even though that's not what it really is). Basically the whole thing sounds like a demented carnival song with very dark lyrics. A beat kicks in later as Ogre repeats "better off dead," as the song mellows out to quiet vocals repeating the same line, and then the record playing backward type sounds fade out the song. Some of the sounds seem like they would make Coil proud.
"The Daze" follows, beginning with heavy synth type sounds going from high treble to lower bassey EQ changes and Ogre singing. The sounds continue on throughout the song as later the vocals become loud and distorted and seem to be changing different effects while Ogre sings. The voices then divide up as the distorted sounding ones take one part, and the others continue to sing. The sounds then become intertwined with each other into noises which finish the song.
"And When" is another strange song for all the changes that happen in it. A lot of keyboard sounds, vocals and an up beat kick drum enter. More percussion and synth lines join as the song then hits it's climax with guitars overriding everything, and goes to a space-rock type sound with keyboards complimenting the guitars. It ends with a bit of a sample repeated through the whole song of someone saying "are you home. are you there?"
"Idle Contact" is the quickest paced song on the album. It's got a straight forward Atkin's style drumming, guitar, and keyboard sounds as Ogre's voice navigates the song. The biggest changes in this song are that parts take turns and become stronger then others. Later in the song many other vocal track come in to accompany the main ones, and the song ends. A pretty basic song, but great none the less.
"Exfoliate" is after that. It begins with a loop fading in, keyboards and quicker paced drum machine bits following. It mellows out a bit, with warm bass hums and Ogre singing and gets crazy from there with loud distorted noises (complimented with Ogre screaming) interrupting the vocals, joined by a clean sounding guitar. The vocals go through different effect changes, as the noises follow sparatically. It all gets mellow once again, with just the vocals, then starts up with backwards Atkin style druming. The madness stops once again as the loops that started the song ends it.
The final song "For Dusts and Mists" which actually starts at the end of "Exfoliate" and continues onto the 11th track is one of the most interesting songs on the album. The song to me sounds like someone eating cereal under a lot of delay effects. I could be wrong, but it defently resembles that. It then moves onto a dark sounding piano playing along with it, and mixing into quicker tempoed electronic sounding synth lines. A very loud distorted trebally noise flows in with mild percussion for the apex, making the song seem relaxing yet chaotic, and then stops sharply, as the mellow piano and cereal eating delay sounds slowly die off. The dark sounding piano plays on for a bit and then fades out as a gentle noise hits and then the album finishes.
...And that's all folks.
One similarity I've noticed in most of these songs is that there seems to have been a lot of playing around in the studio. The way they mess with the rhythm on most tracks is in the same vein as how they do it on "A New High In Low" (the newest Pigface album). There is also a fetish on this album (which I love, I must add) with delaying the percussion and vocals at points, which makes the song flow really well and sound more dynamic. They also seem to have doubled up on most of Ogre's vocals. The vocals are a very main piece of the music, sometimes it seems like the music was made around them, and why shouldn't it, they're great! Interesting to say the least.
The artwork lines the whole album, it's a digipack case. The cover has a rectangle with "Rx" and "bedside toxicology" which is a bit off center and text that you can't read behind it. All this is lying on a dark brownish black blurred picture of a little girl (or at least, that's what it seems to be). It is very Dave McKean looking (see Front Line Assembly's - Hardwired, or the newer Download releases). I also believe some of the figures in the pictures are Ogre. Also, behind the CD tray there is a red medical X, with a wacky collage. My only problem with it is that no lyrics are included, but then again it's not very hard to make out the words, so maybe that's why they chose not to include them.
I'm not going to put a rating on this, but it's a solid all around album and the production is great. It is defenetly worth buying and big Ogre / Atkins fans might even like it more that I have.
Ogre and Martin Atkins are going to be doing a North America wide (and possibly even beyond) meet and greet session just after the release of this album. No dates or places are fully confirmed as of yet, but here is what has been planned.
location's removed. why? 'cause they're not accurate.
Bye Bye,
Chris O'Toole
Invisible Rep. Extraordinaire

-Bryan Reesman
Godsend Online has moved to a new location. it's one of the cream-of-the-crop on internet mag's. check it out here.
Version 12 of interface magazine has a Rx interview. if any of you good folks can pick up an issue and scan the interview for me i'd be very thankful.
| May 17,1998 |
| May 14,1998 |
ckey@jps.net
| May 13,1998 |
Fang Club, 665 N. Robertson in West Hollywood. Doors open at 10pm.
http://www.fangclub.com fangz@pacbell.net (818) 848-7937
$6 cover 21 & over
| May 12,1998 |
first we've got the review of 'music for cats,' it got a 'thumbs up' (i hate ratings, just review the damn thang and let us decide on our own).
cEvin Key seems more willing with each album to leave behind the experimental aggression of his former band, Skinny Puppy, in favor of exploring less structured ambient directions. The departure in form of Download's III from previous releases hinted at the formless construction of Music for Cats, which tellingly subtitles 'a subconscious electronic orchestra.' Former bandmate Dwayne R. Goettel's death has clearly been a major impetus. Notably, III was the first Download album not to list him as a member. But even here, Goettel contributes from beyond the grave, providing synthesizers on the frenetic 'Herbalist Rule,' the speaker-spanking 'Inside Jam World' and three others that are easily the album's densest, most propulsive tracks.
A veteran of numerous collaborative projects, Key still seems to be deciding what to do on his own without Goettel and Download cronies Genesis P-Orridge, Mark Spybey, Philth, Anthony Valcic and Ken Marshall. This vacillation makes for an interesting album that will likely baffle expectations of both Skinny Puppy and early Download, while still exhibiting Key's abundant creativity. Soft, morphing stereophonic synthesizer tracks are spiced throughout with samples, occasionally joined by Genesis' vocals and underpinned by subtle percussion. The last two tracks are the most intriguing: 'Grah Statikcat [Electrodes]' weds pulsing electronics to a slow-build, bittersweet synth line; 'Full Circle' invokes a tribal vibe given a haunting gothic treatment and additional gravity by Ashok Sarkar's chanted vocals. Call it chapter one of cEvin Key's newest incarnation.
Metropolis, POB 54307, Philadelphia PA, 19105
C.G. Parker
There's also a full page advert for Rx. It does have artwork, but I'm not going to scan it. It's just the album cover with some text in the background. I'll post the complete scans from 'bedside toxicology' soon, that should cover what ya need to see.
| May 10,1998 |
| May 8,1998 |
Project manager Jeff Antebi confirms that GLU will be participating on the as yet unnamed Skinny Puppy record for the Nettwerk label, but adds that a specific song has yet to be chosen. GLU will be joining fellow Philadelphian Josh Wink (song TBA) along with Chris Vrenna ("Assimilate"), Adrian Sherwood ("Tin Omen"), Autechre (TBA), Rhys Fulber ("Worlock") and Ruby ("Smothered Hope").
Antebi says he's looking for artist-oriented remixes and expects to add another three to five tracks to the record. There's no release date or album title at this time.
Skinny Puppy were pioneers of the industrial goth genre and stood shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Ministry and Nine Inch Nails. They were first formed in 1982 and disintegrated in the early 1990s.
| May 7,1998 |
At long last the much anticipated Ogre & Atkins project has been released. This is the first full length release Ogre has done since Skinny Puppy's 'The Process.' This begs the obvious question: was it worth the wait? You bet it is.
The album begins with a Syd Barrett Pink Floyd cover, 'Scarecrow.' As if to demonstrate that this is not Skinny Puppy, the track is just Ogre, acoustic guitar and an occasional drum beat. Is the track 'Scarecrow' about Ogre himself and his Skinny Puppy image? Ogre, like the subject of the song, can appear menacing and dangerous from a distance. But upon close inspection, harmless. Ogre, when speaking about the yet to be released (if ever) W.E.L.T., said Skinny Puppy was about masking oneself. The unmasking of Ogre begins right away with the opening track.
The following two tracks 'K Y Re:amin' and 'Reuptake' are both good songs that could have been right at home on a Pigface album. And like 'Asphole,' from 'Notes from the Underground,' they could very well have ended up being the best tracks on the album.
The fourth song on the album is another cover song. This time its 'Downtown.' I can't recall were I first heard this song, but as soon as you hear it, you'll know it.
There is only one instrumental track, 'For Dusts and Mists.' Oddly enough, to my ears it's the must Puppy-like of all. It's filled with interesting sounds you just can't place. Ice in a glass being rattled, hoof beats, or wood wind chimes being held together?
'And When' is a powerful track in the same vein as 'Cult' from 'The Process.' It begins slowly with vocals as the focus then peaks forcefully at the end. There's also a good dose of base at the end of this song.
Martin Atkins has done a great job with his collaboration with Ogre. The drums are, as expected, solid and clear. Not over the top at all, as I feared they might be. With additional work from other Invisible label guys, Lee (Bagman & Sheep on Drugs) Fraser and Jason McNich, the songs are well filled out and not sparse or overdone.
The album can be abrasive at points, but not overly so. In fact, some of you many find it too, ummm, friendly, for lack of a better word. The production and sound quality is top notch as is the CD case itself. Steven R Gilmore has done the cover art. It's very good, but not on par with a classic like the art from 'VivisectVI.' It features overlapping text and distorted pictures of a woman. My favorite part is the portion behind the CD itself.
There's something for every Skinny Puppy fan in this album. But make no mistake, it's not Puppy and doesn't try to be. Thank God. It is, at last, a step out from behind the shadow of Skinny Puppy for Ogre. A misstep it's not by any means. There is no reason for you to not buy this album. You won't be sorry, even if you're more of a Download fan than Skinny Puppy. It's hard not to like.
| May 6,1998 |
todd zachritz let me know there's some SP remix, tribute, and Rx stuff in the latest issue of the alternative press. as soon as mr. mailman drops me my copy, i'll post the stuff.
and i got a replacement scanner, so look for coverart of the Rx and phil western new albums soon.
| May 5,1998 |
Overall impression: excellent. Ogre is back, finally, and he isn't relying on his past to blast him through the future. No Puppy, no Pigface ... this is Rx. It's a whole new thing. Sure, there's the trademark Martin Atkins drums and the fluid Ogilvie voice, but this album sounds quite different from past endeavors. Most of the album is very vocal centered, some very noisy parts, some quiet parts, lots of bizarre analogue bleeps, blurbs and beats, some guitar and some violin. The production is top-notch, a lot of attention to detail and some really great effects, sounds, layering, studio tricks, etc are utilized throughout. They took some cool risks on this album too, several tracks standout: "Scarecrow" is a Syd Barrett cover based solely upon Ogre's vox and acoustic guitar, "K Y Re:amin" is the "Asphole"-ish track they played on the Lowest of the Low tour (I wish I had the 10,000 watt system at home!), "Reuptake" reminds me of the "Our Swimmer" cover that Ogre/Rieflin/Walk did for the Wire "Whore" tribute awhile back, "Crackhead Waltz" is a bizarre music box-like tune, and "For Dusts and Mists" is a clanky instrumental that could fit on a Throbbing Gristle album. For some odd reason, I didn't "get" most of this album until after about a half dozen or so listens ... I suggest you do the same. It just clicked for me all of the sudden. It's going to get much more rotation on my cd players than Key's "Music For Cats", that's for sure. The packaging/artwork looks great too (as always with Invisible). My only minor complaint is how shortthe cd is. A great start for Rx, recommended and looking forward to more ...
As always, the above is my opinion and is copyright-free. Do with itwhat you will ...
| May 4,1998 |
quick point: thanks to robert shea of map records for sending a copy of Phil Western's 'the escapist.' i've been so busy i've hardly has a chance to hear it, but so far it sounds great. look for a full review and more soon.
...and Rx is now shipping pre-orders in the US! hopefully i should have mine any moment now...