August 31, 1998

  • ALTPRESS CK INTERVIEW
  • a good interview from the guys at AP.
      karen keeler continues to do a great job of getting these interviews typed up and out on the web. i thought this interview is better than most of the articles ap has been publishing lately. so what are you waiting for? click here to read the interview and below be yer spine tingling clip!

        Then, unprompted, he casually answers a question that has no doubt been on the minds of his fans. "I spoke with Ogre the other night at the Bauhaus reunion gig. We've spoken about a couple things that could forward progress. Who knows?"

    August 27, 1998

  • CeVIN FOTO FROM ALTPRESS
  • i just got home and got this.
      i took my best gal and my bimmer on the road to o-ville this weekend (got her up to 103(ish)), hung out at the peabody and went crazy downtown. i just got home and opened my mail. obviously (by this point) the new alternative press (issue #123) had arrived. we'll get the article up soon, in the meantime below is a scan of the main large foto.


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  • CeVIN POSTS TO THE SUBCON GUESTBOOK
  • news from the man himself.
      great guy, arron campbell pointed out that cEvin has made an post to the subconscious home page, guestbook section. below be the whole post:

        Hello everyone < Hope you are all well. I have been really busy building a new studio The little things that need to be tweaked are the things I really get caught up in. New ways to satup are a crucial new way to reinvent your style. Anyhow triggerland and wallosaurus are back up and running. Currently I am wrapping up the new Subconscious Sampler "Wild Planet" for Nettwerk. Mostly unusual tracks and excerpts from the whole family. Also working with Phil on new PlatEAU and Download. As well a new electronic Tear Garden is in the works for good ole 1999 Time and Space zero G UK have finally released the Skinny Puppy Series of Sampling CDs. They are available at their website. We will add a link shortly. They are quite cool to use. Some new collaborations coming up , and I willmake sure to get on here and let everyone know what's up. We are hopg to tour this fall, as well as assemble our much awaited Eps for Download III. Makesure and check out the new Skinny Puppy Dys Temper Remix LP coming out soon on Nettwerk. Some of the remixes are really inventive. We tested some in SanFrancisco at cattacombes last month , and had a GREAT response. I find that I don't complain about the rain anymore. peace cEvin

        cEvin Key
        La, Ca USA -

    August 27, 1998

  • ONE YEAR OLD
    • how could i have forgot?!?! this page has been in existence for just over one year!!! who knew it'd last this long? all in all it's been a good year, some hip stuff happened and the page racked up about 50,000 hits; that's better than i ever expected.

      what's new for the next year? well...i wanted to have some page updates done by now, but stuff always takes longer than ya think it will. so far i'm pleased with the way things are going and there should be a updated look and perhaps a new feature or two soon.

      now it's my turn to thank you the reader. this page could not have lasted as long as it has without your help. my heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. let's do it again for another year...

  • STUFF IN THE NEW ALT PRESS
  • as usual, my copy hasn't arrived yet.
      ok, so i can't be specific about anything but...this months alternative press, #123, has an interview with cEvin. apparently has talks about ogre a bit, more on the details later. on page 131 there's a advert of a rag called outburn has ogre on the cover and it looks like he's a blond now! yikes! check out the pic below. huge tanks to karen keeler for the info and the pic.


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    August 26, 1998

  • MORE ON SKINNED
  • someone has a copy.
      and that someone is Chemical Wire. it looks like my past posts may have been incorrect, there seems to be actual SP samples on this disc! i'm short on time today so all for now and below are the posts to epilogue (edited by me).

        ...there are 84 tracks... each track has between 7 and 15 samples on it... they all sound pretty cool so far.... a bunch stick out as "yeah, i recognize that from such and such song"... mostly the vocal snippets, of which there seems to be a good number. a lot of the samples are (heavily) processed and/or looped. very aggressive, noisy, dark...

        cEv says that a lot of/most of the samples contained here were used by skinny puppy or download at some point or another.

        also sounds like some of the vocal samples come from cev's travels in jamaica. ok, so as i listen to more of this, i recognize a bunch of the sounds from songs. this is pretty neat. heehee...

        -----------------------------------------

        ... hadnt even come to the "loops" portion of the CD when i wrote that first email...

        what can i say? fucking wow!

        some of the best loops from sp/dl 's best songs... fuck yes! drums, synth lines, etc etc... extreme wierdness. quite cool.

        to just hear the individual sections by themselves is really really impressive...

    August 24, 1998

  • ALTERNATIVE PRESS Rx ARTICLE
  • at last, here it is.
      weeks ago i said i'd type in the Rx interview from this month's alternative press (issue #122). well, i'm a lazy punk and never did. thankfully karen keeler stepped up to the plate and got the job done. below is a clip and click here for the whole thang.

        The first full-length collaboration from these two alt-music icons, Bedside Toxicology, offers a sense of closure o their past and a glimpse of where they are going. The duo originally planned to use the name Ritalin, but their farsighted lawyers sensed trouble along the way, so the duo adopted the universal symbol for prescription medicines: Rx.

        But inevitably, Bedside Toxicology will be filed in record stores under "Pigface" or "Skinny Puppy". Maybe even in the second marked "Ministry". After all, if you listen to the rock press, you'd think that Martin and Ogre got their industrial-rock merit badges participating in the Ministry tour that spawned the 1990 live album In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up.

  • CEVIN ON USENET
  • he sets the record straight.
      in response to a post on alt.fan.skinny claiming he'd stolen the rights (how do you steal rights? fake legal ownership?) to DRG's work and was being sued by Dwayne's family, cEvin posted the below reply:

        GOSSIP POLICE

        sorry to wreck your thread , but this is nonsense.

        subconscious

  • LEGENDARY PINK DOTS TOUR DATES
  • perhaps cEvin will appear at some of the CA dates?
      ok, this is barely related news, but LPD tour has GOT to be mentioned. i've never seem LPD live, but i'll fix that this time around. thanks to my main man todd for the below list.

        Legendary Pink Dots North American Tour Schedule. TwiCirc is set to open all the shows while EKS will also make occasional solo appearances before the Dots.

        Mon Oct. 12 Burlington, VT - Toast (all ages)
        Tue Oct. 13 Montreal, PQ - Cabaret (18+)
        Wed Oct. 14 Toronto, ONT - Opera House (all ages)
        Thu Oct. 15 London, ONT - Call the Office (all ages)
        Fri Oct. 16 Pontiac, MI - 7th House (18+)
        Sun Oct. 18 Cincinnati, OH - Bogart's Front Room (all ages)
        Tue Oct. 20 Boston, MA - Middle East (18+)
        Wed Oct. 21 Philadelphia, PA - Upstairs at Nicks (21+)
        Thu Oct. 22 New York City, - Wetlands (all ages)
        Fri Oct. 23 Washington, DC - Bayon (18+)
        Sat Oct. 24 Charlotte, NC - Tremont Street (16+)
        Sun Oct. 25 Chapel Hill, NC - Cat's Cradle (all ages)
        Tue Oct. 27 Myrtle Beach, SC - House of Blues (all ages)
        Wed Oct. 28 Orlando, FL - House of Blues (all ages)
        Thu Oct. 29 Tampa, FL - State Theatre (all ages) (unconfirmed)
        Fri Oct. 30 Jacksonville, FL - Fat Cat Music Halle (all ages) (unconfirmed)
        Sun Nov. 01 Atlanta, GA - Cotton Club (all ages) (unconfirmed)
        Mon Nov. 02 New Orleans - Howlin' Wolf, (unconfirmed)
        Tue Nov. 03 Austin, TX - Backroom, (unconfirmed)
        or Austin, TX - Stubbs/La Zona Rosa, (unconfirmed)
        Wed Nov. 04 Dallas, TX - Trees, (unconfirmed)
        or
        Dallas, TX - Trees/Lizard Lounge, (unconfirmed)
        Fri Nov. 06 Lawrence, KS - Bottleneck, (unconfirmed)
        Sat Nov. 07 St.Louis, - Galaxy, (unconfirmed)
        Sun Nov. 08 Milwaukee, - Rave Bar, (unconfirmed)
        Tue Nov. 10 Minneapolis, - 7th St. Entry, (unconfirmed)
        Wed Nov. 11 Chicago, IL - Metro, (18+) (unconfirmed)
        Fri Nov. 13 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theatre, (all ages)
        Sat Nov. 14 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theatre, (all ages)
        Sun Nov. 15 Boulder, CO - Fox Theatre, (unconfirmed)
        or
        Fort Collins, CO - Aggie Theatre, (unconfirmed)
        Tue Nov. 17 Salt Lake City, UT - DV-8, (unconfirmed)
        Thu Nov. 19 Phoenix, AZ - Gibsons, (unconfirmed)
        Fri Nov. 20 Los Angeles, CA - Roxy
        or
        Los Angeles, CA - El Rey Theatre, (unconfirmed)
        Sat Nov. 21 Los Angeles/Las Vegas - 2nd show option/HuntridgeTheatre, (unconfirmed)
        Sun Nov. 22 San Francisco, CA - Fillmore/Maritime Hall, (unconfirmed)
        Mon Nov. 23 Palo alto, - The Edge, (unconfirmed)
        Tue Nov. 24 Portland, OR - La Luna, (all ages) (unconfirmed)
        Wed Nov. 25 Seattle, - Showbox, (unconfirmed)
        Thu Nov. 26 Vancouver, - Starfish Room, (unconfirmed)
        Sat Nov. 28 Mexico City, (unconfirmed)

    • UPDATE - AUGUST 17, 1998
    • SUBCON SAMPLER 2 INFO
        a clarification on the original update: 'Morphedus' will not be on the sampler, it's another song with Ogre Vox from 'the process' era. and although i did not mention this in the update (just TG) the new Tear Garden is not (almost) done , only six songs are complete.
    • UPDATE - JUNE 22, 1998
    • PHILTH REVIEWS
        i've added still another review. this one is from XLR8R, check it out, plus all it's friends, here.
    August 21, 1998

  • RXMIX DYS TEMPER INFO
  • nothing new here, but what the hell...
      mark weddle posted the below info to epilogue yesterday. dig it below:

        from: http://www.muzic.com/

        Skinny Puppy: Seminal Electro-Goths Get Remix Treatment

        The say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but with ReMix Dys Temper, a 12-track collection of re-interpreted sonic explorations originally created by one of the most influential industrial bands of the '80s. As a way to pay homage to the '80s darkwave pioneers, a group of the new breed of "techno-influenced" artists re-mixed songs for this collection, including mixmeisters Josh Wink, Guru, former NIN drummer Chris Vrenna, God Lives Underwater, and the Deftones.

        The Canadian-based electro-goths -- who anticipated darkwave faves like NIN, Marilyn Manson and Gravity Kills, and who actually teamed up with Ministry's influential leader Al Jourgensen on their 1989 album Rabies -- earned critical acclaim for its groundbreaking electronic music, but Skinny Puppy's material was too severe for mainstream tastes. After nearly fifteen years and several line-up changes (original member Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose in 1995), the band broke up in 1995 before their final neo-mystical album, The Process, was released.

        Skinny Puppy vocalist Nivek Ogre describes the soon-to-be-released collection as a "testament to what was Skinny Puppy," and makes an appearance on the album with a newly recorded version of their classic slice of darkwave drama, "Smothered Hope." The album's track listing is as follows:

        "Smothered Hope" -- Ogre & Mark Walk
        "Killing Game" -- Autechre
        "Chainsaw" -- Josh Wink
        "Testure" -- God Lives Underwater
        "Addiction" -- Günter Shulz of KMFDM
        "Worlock" -- Rhys Fulber
        "Tin Omen" -- Adrian Sherwood
        "Assimilate" -- Chris Vrenna
        "Spasmolytic" -- Deftones
        "Love In Vein" -- Neotropic
        "Rodent" -- Ken Marshall
        "Censor" -- Guru
        ReMix Dys Temper will be available on October 20 via Nettwerk Records.
        -Jennifer Schwartz

        I didn't realize DRG was an original member! God, I must be a fucking moron, thanks Jennifer ...

    August 19, 1998

  • OGRE INTERVIEW
  • this one is from Industrial Nation.
      here's another fine interview with ogre. it can be found in print format in industrial nation issue #16 and was diligently typed in by Karen Keeler. below is a clip and you can read the whole 'thang here.

        Ogre: For instance, "And When" is a really good example, if you're just standing 20 feet away from it you might think it's a bit of a trite pop song or its really too clean or it doesn't appeal to our "industrial" sensibilities until you listen to what it's about and hopefully you'll come away with the meaning. And maybe you won't, but it's quite twisted.

  • DVOA INTERVIEW
  • from this month's Sonic Boom.
      no body clued me into this interview thrown up over on sonic boom. it has a little Download/CK related info in it; therefore it's worth a mention. below is yer usual taken out of context clip:

        The relationship between Cevin Key and myself originally started with him coming over to my apartment and jam with me. We were able to work with each other in that manner.
    August 18, 1998

  • POOR INVOLUTION SCAN
  • it's better than nothing though.
    August 17, 1998

  • SUBCON SAMPLER 2 INFO
  • not official, but it seems accurate enough.
      i saw this juicy post on epilogue from Chemical Wire. keep in mind, the below is only possible, not guaranteed. face value applies. :) dig the post below: (my comments in blue)

        ok, here's some skinny puppy content for you... discuss amongst yourselves. all quotes are paraphrased.

        the second subcon sampler will possibly feature, among other things:

        a couple unreleased puppy songs from the process sessions... complete with ogrevox. these are the songs that were supposed to be on the Candle single. pretty cool songs. cev says "i dont think these are really the best of the bunch, but lots of people want to hear them...

        'Morphedus' on 'We Came to Dance Vol. 10' is an unreleased 'Candle' single. i hope we don't see the same track again. not 'cause it was a poor track or anything, don't get me wrong, i just want a completely new track. for cEvin's comment on this track check out the oldest archive, august 25th '97 (see the FAQ also).

        cEvin key solo... analogue gear going schizo. very odd. but most excellent. cev says "its just this wall [of old analogue gear] running with itself. No samples. Its really quite wierd but I like it."

        autechre remixes of download. not positive about this one. i remember hearing something about it 2 months ago or so, but plans may have changed. havent heard it yet.

        unreleased doubting thomas. originally done for lalalahumansteps. was lost for a while. finally found on reel to reel tape. good song. tho, as memory serves, it had no samples in it... kc says "Just found this on reel to reel tape. I've been looking for it for a while. No one in LA had the equipment to read the digital encoding so I had to send it up to Vancouver to have it put onto DAT. Its one of those songs that you finish and then somehow forget about, but then eventually remember it, find it, and are glad you could find it."

        lalalahumansteps is a Vancouver dance troupe SP did some music for. you can find another lalalahumansteps mix on the 'inquisition' single.

        unreleased teargarden. from the Tired Eyes sessions... very electronic. Edward's voice sounded absolutely beautiful. had some really killer synth patches. c says "this is an odd one for teargarden I guess, but I really like it. I love when you find a tape that you havent heard in a long time, and you're amazed at what you hear."

        all things subject to change.

  • LOST SP/DOWNLOAD TRACK?
  • this could be nothing, but hell...
      todd of godsend magazine found something interesting. could there be a new (5 min.) track that was intended to be a Download or SP song? more on this later, for now check out the e-mail below:

        I may have found a "lost" Download or SP track! Got Psychic TV's "Electric Newspaper Issue Three" CD (Dossier Germany DCD9076). As you know from the SP Discog, all three of the Dossier volumes of this series have "Brother Ogre" and "Skinny Puppy" listed as contributors to these collections of old recordings and snippets to be used for sampling...well, track 3 sounds EXACTLY like it could easily be a track by Key/Goettel, and would've been written in Malibu 1995 during the "Process" sessions when Genesis was hanging out with them...that's my theory, anyway!

        This CD is available for $8 (+ shipping) from ComFour Distribution.
        Their webpage is :
        http://www.com4.com

    August 13, 1998

  • REMIX DYS TEMPER
  • at last, we have a title and tracklist.
      mark weddle found the below hip news on the nettwerk web site. you can also jump right to the info here. right now it's autechre and ogre's tracks i'm most interested to hear.

        Skinny Puppy re-mix album 'ReMix Dys Temper' set for release this fall... Release date and track listing for highly-anticipated remix album confirmed...

        Armand S.
        Nettwerk Productions
        Vancouver, BC

        Thursday, August 13th, 1998

        " At times that which is wished for becomes a dirty, never departing dream beneath the fingernails. From scratching just what's under the surface to discovering the cruelty all around the melody, a certain type of sanctuary manifested itself. A place just as twisted as what was exposed.

        "e;Nothing was innocent. Therapist, manipulator - No difference. Mediation contributing to division, the manipulator becoming the pawn of the outside party. All bumps and warts, bent out of sight, night becomes dark as crack cornered spite. No one leaves without something begging to be said. No rock unturned. No better way to deal. A card bearing queen of spades digging the graves of insecure souls without dealing with herself. As if the joker would. A calm cryptic revision. We can't separate truth from the memory...A testament to what was Skinny Puppy."

        -Ogre/Skinny Puppy 1998

        Skinny Puppy, one of the most influential industrial/electronic bands of their time, have had twelve specially selected tracks of theirs re-mixed by a new generation of musicians for an upcoming autumn release called:

        ReMix Dys Temper

        The track listing has been confirmed and the list of contributors to this project are as follows:

        1. Smothered Hope - Ogre & Mark Walk (Ruby)
        2.Killing Game - Autechre
        3. Chainsaw - Josh Wink
        4. Testure - God Lives Underwater
        5. Addiction - Gunter Shulz of KMFDM
        6. Worlock - Rhys Fulber
        7. Tin Omen - Adrian Sherwood
        8. Assimilate - Chris Vrenna
        9. Spasmolytic - Deftones
        10. Love In Vein - Neotropic
        11. Rodent - Ken Marshall
        12. Censor - Guru

        The album is slated to be released Tuesday, October 20th on Nettwerk Records in both Canada and the U.S., and to round-off this project, Steven R. Gilmore will be returning to design the album artwork.

  • INVOLUTION SOUND SAMPLES
  • check these out.
      to prime the pump before the release of the album, tone casualties threw up a pair of sound samples. the two songs sampled are 'Clairaudience' and 'Smack My Birch.' i don't have a sound card on the computer i'm currently using so i can't tell what they are like, but 'Smack My Birch' sounds amusing. the samples are in .au format and you can find 'em here on the bad quality radio page. thanks for the info todd.
    August 12, 1998

  • DIGITAL INTERSECT - SUMMER '98
  • i read the whole 'thang, and it's pretty good.
      ok, i can be bought and i will p1mp. there! it's out! i feel better now...

      b.d. scheffel sent me the latest issue of his zine, digital intersect. it's got interviews with 0gre, not breathing, hanzel und gretyl and legendary pink dots. all in all, it's the best zine i've read in a while. sure it's not a slick glossy production, but if it was would it be a zine?

      i won't print the interviews here for now. the zine is still out and you can pick it up if you like. normally i don't care about reprinting interviews, but that may now just apply to larger mag's. that being said, here's the first q&a from the ogre interview:

        The Rx album proves you are still electronic music's greatest lyricist. With the writing and recording of 'Bedside Toxicology' did you feel there was any pressure to match or out-do your lyrical performances with Skinny Puppy?

        The painful, nagging doppelganger dancing circles in the mind has always asserted a need to twist the knife a bit further and outdo it own double. This said it becomes obvious that at some point you reconcile and stop torturing yourself about it. I have never enjoyed writing more than now. The struggle that mixed up drugs with some sort artistic tool has given way to a certain freedom and venom. The control, at one time lost in the midst of inner circle salvos, has focused on a target outside and very real. The space is filled with many strange memories linking lucid and current truths. It all had and continues to have great meaning from exploration, for myself.

    August 10, 1998

  • OGRE ON USENET
  • Ogre sets it straight on alt.fan.skinny.
      my new usenet server doesn't have alt.fan.skinny on it yet. so i've not been reading it. therefore i missed this when it originally came up. thankfully rafer didn't.

      obvious question, is the below post(s) fake? i think not, here's why: about a month ago i had a e-mail forwarded to me that was originally from Ogre. i was asked to keep it private, so i did. it had the same e-mail addy as the one in the usenet messages. it also matches with the addy used on the e-mail i posted on June 22nd. that being said, i think it's the genuine article.

      if you want to read the whole message thread (which is kinda amusing) and don't have Usnet access, you can always use dejanews. below are the two posts ogre made regarding the article in this month's AP:

        Subject: Re: Ogre/Atkins article
        From: Ohgrr la-bas@ix.netcom.com
        Date: 1998/08/05
        Newsgroups: alt.fan.skinny

        just to add clarity to the issue...Mr. sullivan should spend a bit more time at reading prior to posting a quotation which, obviously, came from martin. Sheep>Invisible...get the connection.

        re:guards
        ogre

        > john sullivan wrote:
        >
        > >
        > >
        > > I can't remember who said it, but they seemed to be pointing the
        > > finger at Download when saying how industrial has died because
        > > it's become computer/studio dorks taking over with all the new
        > > version 2.5 fuck it software....or something to that effect. Bitter
        > > perhaps? But Ogre did give thumbs up to Sheep On Drugs, claiming
        > > they are doing cooler stuff than anyone with a computer that
        > > is a decade old.

        -----------------next message-----------------

        Subject: Re: Ogre/Atkins article
        From: Ohgrr la-bas@ix.netcom.com
        Date: 1998/08/07
        Newsgroups: alt.fan.skinny

        Who's bitter Now? .... ; )
        My height is in your own mind.
        I'm just tired of being misquoted.
        Why not just give it away?
        re:guards " ! "
        ogre

        john sullivan wrote:

        > It will never happen again, your highness. Fuck your stupid
        > article.
        >
        > Anyone want to buy my copy of Rx? I don't think I want it anymore.
        > I'd rather listen to Download.
        >
        > --john

    August 7, 1998

  • STUFF FROM AP #122
  • the below is from a panel called 'turning points.'.
      so far i've been too busy to type in any of the Rx article in this month's issue of the alternative press. but, obviously, i did get a chance to type up what ogre and martin have been listening to. check it out below...

        If Ogre and Atkins aren't into the current industrial-rock scene, what are they listening to? These are the CDs currently orbiting inside their players.

        Martin Atkins
        --------------------
        1. Fatboy Slim's Better Living Through Chemistry
        2. Psychic TV
        3. John Everall / Tactile

        Ogre
        --------------------
        1. YMO's Technodelic
        2. Brian Eno's The Shutov Assembly
        3. Nico's The End
        4. Billie Holiday's Billie's Blues
        5. Newt's -273c

    August 6, 1998

  • SHINE UP DA PAGE
    • we're getting close to the first anniversary of this page. so i was thinking to myself...what does this page need? obvious answer: better graphics. now i'm not very good at graphic work in general. if any of you good folks out there in web land would like to help me add some new graphics to the page, drop me a line.

      on the same subject i'll pose a question to you the reader...where is this page most lacking? or... what would you like to see (or see more of)? links, reviews, whatever... please mail me with 'suggestion' in the subject line.

  • SKINNED - NO REAL ANSWERS YET
  • some info from Time+Space themselves (itself?).
      I just spoke to ken at time+space usa regarding skinned. i didn't learn much, below is what i do know:
    • the samples are from cEvin Key himself.
    • ken has no idea if they are actual samples from SP, but they fur-sure do not have nettwerk rights.
    • ken has not heard the disc and is not familiar enough with SP to be able to tell if they are actual samples or not.
    • he doubts the samples are from recorded licensed music. If they were you (the musician who bought the disc) would not be able to use 'em in your own music (that you'd want to record and sell).
    • you can check out the sample disc yourself at listening stations at thoroughbred music or mars, assuming you have one near you, in a few weeks.
    • i'm going to guess there will not be any actual SP samples on this disc.

      i'd also like to point out that $99 for a professional sampling disc is not priced to high. for a consumer disc, perhaps. thanks for the point logickal.

    August 3, 1998

  • NEW SKINNY PUPPY STARTUP LOGO
    here's one more.
  • DVOA INTERVIEW
    mark makes some comments regarding leaving Download.
    • no body found an interview with DVOA on an online 'zine called invein. it's got some very interesting comments from mark about why he left Download. you can check out the whole interview here. below is a (big) clip of the Download related stuff, as clipped by no body.

        INVEIN: I'm sure you've been bothered about this..but you left Download..and from what I've heard you wanted to spend more time working on your own stuff?

        Spybey: Yeah..

        INVEIN: Was there any hard feelings involved in it?

        Spybey: No...I've tried...but..the whole history of Download was littered with accidental happenings. There was never visage, that it was a band. You know I'm sure, somebody decided it was at some point. But there was so much coming and going of people, and it was really only Cevin and I that were the stable members, the sort of nucleus. And by the end of that tour where we had spent 4 months together, and at the end of that tour I had no more motivation to make another download record. I was just so tired of the process of doing that kind of thing, and I wanted to take time off from it. The motivation never came back to me, and I wanted to work on what I was doing. So I started that process last January, and recorded the basis of Piss Front back then. The decision for me to leave was mutual, they were going in a direction where they didn't feel that my "aggression" or "passion" in what I do, contributed to their wants, and I certainly wasn't interested in being an accessory to minimal techno music. I didn't feel able to do it. It's that simple.

        INVEIN: I'm assuming you've heard, III ?

        Spybey: No I haven't actually. I heard some in the studio when it was being made.

        INVEIN: Basically what I get is that it's minimal techno yes, and that the feeling isn't there without you. Do you feel that could be the case? I mean if you sat down and heard what they'd been working on before you touched anything, how did you feel about it before...

        Spybey: Well..that wouldn't be fair for me to...well I couldn't simply aggree with you, but you know what I would say, is that when I used to go down to the studio, and they'd be working on III, it was clear that they weren't looking for the stanely pain aggression, and I thought that was a great mistake because the eyes of stanley pain was doing very well at the time. You know there we were..and we had sort of formula going, and I'm thinking "Why don't we explore that?" I would have wanted to do that, I would have wanted to take that sort of manaical thing to another level. I"m certainly not going to change the way I am, I don't think I'm a very mellow sort of person. I'm not really interested in music that tries to "chill people out," or "escape" from things. It's drivel to me, and I'm not saying that's what it's about, but I'm not interested in hippie chill out music. I'm interested in music that's confrontational, or that has got some sort of like undercurrent to it, so that you're not neccessarily sure of what's going on.

        INVEIN: Yeah like not something to get high to...

        Spybey: Yeah yeah..and that's a general thing in music anyway. The reason why that whole ambient scene turned me off eventually, because it was primarily associated with people who just wanted to take drugs and go to sleep. That to me is a waste of music.

    August 2, 1998

  • ALTPRESS RX SCAN
    the only real picture from the AP short article.
    • there is a large Rx image in this month's issue of alternative press, #122 sep. '98. it takes up a little more than a page, too large for my scanner. so below is just the portion with ogre and martin. there's not much in the rest. also, i figure i'll have all the Rx stuff typed by myself (or someone else) by the end of this week.


      Click to zoom

  • DOWNLOAD, DOUBTING THOMAS LIVE - CLOCKS MP3
    i missed this one a week ago.
    • re-reading usenet, alt.fan.skinny in particular i found /virtus/ had added a live doubting thomas track (as performed by download), 'clocks' to his page celestial research. see the July 9th update for more info on his page.
  • DOWNLOAD TOUR IN SUMMER OF '99?
    from LPD central.
    • todd zachritz continues to keep from honest with more good info. from the legendary pink dots news page we have the below snippet from the 'good news' section. man, it has been taking a while for the second Download tour to gel. i'll be ready when it happens.

        2.First Tear Garden Tour (with Download) planned for Summer, '99.
  • GET SKINNED?
    you be the judge.
    • ok, i admit it, i'm still a bit jaded from my purchase of the first mixman skinny puppy sounddisk. it not really having skinny puppy samples and all. well, along comes 'skinned, samples from the private archives of the band skinny puppy' a pro(?) edition of skinny puppy samples, cost: $99! below is the press and a picture of the cover taken from this page.


      No zoom

        Skinned is the eagerly awaited first sample CD release from the Canadian Techno, Industial, Noise band Skinny Puppy. This CD is for the over 18's only... Distortion, noise, metal, shock, horror, destruction, doom, warfare...they are all here in abundance. Skinned gives you the rare opportunity to access the private sample vaults of Skinny Puppy and what a worthwhile trip it is... The samples defy rational explanation, they are simply the hardest sounds you are ever likely to hear. Put your ear defenders on and sit back in your armchair ready for an aural assault... You'll not believe the aggression eminating from your speakers! We have pulled back the skin and exposed Skinny Puppy naked for the first time!
    July 30,1998

  • Side Note:
      at last, my copy of the Alternative Press with Rx in it came last night. there's not much to it, but i'll see if i can get a scan up or something from it up this weekend.

      i didn't mention this before, perhaps 'cause it's stupid, but... i got a new (new to me) car just recently. it's a '94 BMW 325is. it's a sweet ride. it's rear wheel drive with a 189hp 6-inline engine. no CD payer yet, the only drawback. perhaps i'll throw up a scan of it sometime. love the car, now it's a joy to haul-ass to work every morning.

      ...and on a barely related note...kyle randall noticed the below listening to howard stern:

        the howard stern morning radio show on july 23rd at approximately 8.30 am played a brief snippet of "omniman" by download just before the commercial break.

    July 29, 1998

  • ONCE AGAIN, AN OGRE INTERVIEW
    not much new info, but still a good interview.
    • first off i must say: ogre does give quite a good interview. almost every interview i've ever read with ogre has been good. saying that, check out this interview with ogre (as Rx) at toxicological nightmares. much thanks to richard e. worrier for the link. below is a clip:

        ...and Autechre did a mix of "Killing Game", which is completely insane, so I really had to sit back and listen to it and go okay, I actually found myself taking the old 'well is this releasable hat' off my head and going NO this is totally artistically correct, the way that they did it, its just the most nasty remix of "Killing Game", it's total Autechre, it's as if they took their pad patches and just ran our tracks from each song through effects and its just this cacophony its really interesting so I'm kinda more excited about that because the production quality is pretty top notch and sounds pretty good, so I think that is the record to look for as far as any sort of coverage on Skinny Puppy.
  • INVOLUTION INFO
    i have no idea how this project may sound, but hell, i'm interested as always.
    • tina worstell of tone casualties sent me the below e-vine with some info. below is all i know...

        Just trying to update and inform everyone about the Paris (Christian Death) and cEvin Key (Skinny Puppy,Download) collaboration. Involution (self titled) is set to be released the first week of September. For more info visit our website or e-mail back here. Spread the word...Involution is upon us.

        Thanks,
        Tina

        "Involution: invoking the Law, setting the Law in motion. Giving a mental or spiritual treatment. Planting the seed of thought in the creative mind of the Universe. Involution is the creation of the concept. Evolution is the time or process it takes for the concept to become manifest. Involution is a concious act evolution is purely mechanical. INVOLUTION=CAUSE EVOLUTION=EFFECT"

    July 28, 1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY STARTUP/SHUTDOWN LOGOS
    try these out.
    • on the aptly titled page, mike's created start-up logo's there are a new pair of startup logos and a shutdown logo. check out page nine and ten for the Skinny Puppy and Download startup's and page two of the shutdowns. there's also a ton of KMFDM stuff there also. below is a sample of a startup:


      No zoom

  • OGRE INTERVIEW
    check out this one in Digital Intersect 'zine.
    • the latest issue of digital intersect has got a new interview with ogre in it. the 'zine is mail order/subscription only and it is $2.50 and issue ($3 outside n. america.) i saw this on epilogue.
    July 26, 1998

  • GODSEND OF A UPDATE
    wads of new discog info.
    • todd zachritz updated the extremely complete discogs on his great web page, godsend online. check out the whole thing or check out below for a summary:

        The SKINNY PUPPY/DOWNLOAD Discography has been updated with info on the following:

        Skinny Puppy's new "Skinned" sampling CD Skinny Puppy remix album info (more confirmed remixers) Skinny Puppy "Chainsaw Chokering" bootleg CD "We Came To Watch" PAL video compilation with a Skinny Puppy track (need more info) "Tyranny Off The Beat Volume 5" comp 2xCD with a Download track "Biosystems" comp CD with a Download track Rx "Bedside Toxicology" limited "fan edition" CD release KMFDM's upcoming album with Ogre

        -----------------------------------------------------

        The DAVE "RAVE" OGILVIE Discography has been updated with info on the following:

        Orgy's "Candyass" CD with Rave's mixing

    July 24, 1998

  • Rx INTERVIEW IN THIS MONTH'S ALTERNATIVE PRESS
    although i don't have a copy yet.
    • hopefully mine is in the mail today/tomorrow. we'll see. anywho, it's the alternative press, available at most decent book stores. i'll post any pics or other good stuff when i get it.
    July 22, 1998

    • UPDATE - JUNE 22, 1998
    • PHILTH REVIEWS
        i've added another review. it from the George Straight, check it out, and the rest, here
    • UPDATE - JUNE 22, 1998
    • MORE STUFF AT ELECTROINDUSTRIAL MUSIC PAGE
    July 21, 1998

  • Rx AND OTHER SCANS FROM INTERFACE V12
    i've had these for weeks, stupid me forgot about 'em.
    • i'm almost caught up, whew, it takes forever. i don't have time to make thumbnails of these guys so i just dropped them onto this page. huge thanks to no body for scanning these pics. oh yeah, you can find the Rx interview itself from Interface v12 back on June 10th, '98.
  • DOWNLOAD WIN95 ANIMATED LOGOS
    there's a bunch of KMFDM's there also.
    • mike ghost has made a pair of fine animated windows95 startup logos. they are from the EOSP album art. check 'em out in section 27-29 of his page, here.
    July 20, 1998

  • LAUNDRY LIST - PART THREE
    i'm still way behind, but getting closer...
    • todd of godsend, again, dropped me hip info. guess what??? More Mixman stuff. Check out the below release:

        ...there is ANOTHER Puppy sampling disc on the way thru Time & Space, this one to be called "Skinned". Here is some info sent to me by Adam Whalley. This info was typed up by him from a flyer sent with the SP Mixman CD :

        SKINNED
        Skinny Puppy "SKINNED" Audio CD £59.95 inc VAT

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -

        "Skinned" is the eagerly awaited first sample CD from the Canadian Techno, Industrial, Noise band Skinny Puppy. This CD is for the over 18's only... Distortion, noise, metal, shock, horror. destruction, doom, warfare...they are all here in abundance. Skinned gives you the rare opportunity to access the private sample vaults of Skinny Puppy and what a worthwhile trip it is...The samples defy rational explanation, they are simply the hardest sounds you are ever likely to hear. Put your ear defenders on and sit back in your armchair ready for an aural assault... You'll not believe the aggression emanating from your speakers ! We have pulled back the skin and exposed Skinny Puppy naked for the first time !

        -----------------

        and here is what Time & Space sent me when I inquired about this being a DIFFERENT CD than the Mixman sample CD: 'Skinned' is due for release within the next 2 months and is a full = pro-audio sample library which will contain a lot more than the Soundiscs.

    • ogre's in this edition of sonic boom. a very good interview, check it out here.
    July 19, 1998

    i'm back. as usual my trips did not go as planned. i won't bore you with the details but the short version is: i took a vacation from everything. i think next time i end up disappearing for a few weeks i should get someone else to update the page while i'm gone eh? i still don't have all my mail server problems fixed, but i hope to have 'em worked out by monday afternoon. i've got almost 3-grand of messages to wade through so again, i plan on replying and getting up to date as soon as possible. thanks for hanging in there...

  • LAUNDRY LIST - PART TWO
    once again, just trying to catch up. as soon as i've caught up, i'll give more detailed info on news updates.
    • todd of godsend sent me this link with the nettwerk skinny puppy remix album release date of october 20th!!! plus other info.

    • simon speichert posted to epilogue the exclaim! interview with ogre that never did appear on virtually canadian. it's not too big, and has some interesting stuff, you can check it out here.

    • dj liam sent me the below info re: some press in the chicago area. he's working on a html version and i'll let ya know when it's done.

        theres this magazine thingie called ILLINIOS ENTERTAINER -chicagoland's music monthly (march 1998)and they had an article entitled on the front:

        RITALIN & DOWNLOAD life after Skinny Puppy and inside the big pages mazagine was a 2 page artricle on the groups and lil quotes from cEvin and ogre and atkins etc.. in the middle of the article they had printed: Download (latest b/w download pic of the 3 n cEvin in middle)

        PUP DADDY & THE FAMILY Ritalin (pic of ogre's eyes closed while holdin ritalin and atkins with glasses lookin forward)
        and on page 2 are '86 pics of dwayne n ogre n cevin as far as the interview....im gonna work on it

    • mark weddle added a review of philth's the escapist to his review page. and i have to say i agree with him. great album.

    • rod chong has updated is super page mediakill with more cool stuff. rod was the man behind the curcible/candle skinny puppy videos as also worked on the 'last rights' tour backing video. great shit, spend some time on his page.

    • ogre is fur sure on the new kmfdm album. there's a little info here. it looks like ogre will do solo vocals on one track and another with en esch.
    July 9, 1998

    there seems to be a problem with my mail server, as of last night i can get mail, but not send it. so if i've STILL not replied to you, sorry again.

  • LAUNDRY LIST
    this is my lame attempt to catch up.
    • kyle randall sent me the below two bits of info:
    • weathermen online now has some pics of the new Skinny Puppy shirts. See june 17th for the original info.
    • the nettwerk site has some new pics that change every time you visit the Skinny Puppy page.
    • folks too numerous to mention let me know about this great interview with ogre here. read the whole thing, i'm too cheep to post a quote.
    • Todd Zachritz let me know that cleopatra seems to have figured out that they've been misspelling 'worlock' on the Skinny Puppy tribute album. The adverts in this month's Alternative Press has it spelled right.

    • HOMEMADE VIDEOS SET TO DOUBTING THOMAS
      be sure to check out these real video format vid's.
    July 8, 1998

  • WHERE THE HELL IS THE NEWS?!?!?
    • ok, ok, i'm back in town for a few days and have thousands of stuff to go through, check out, and such. i'm sure i'll have TONS of updates to do for the next few days...

      why just a few days?? well, i'll be off to Maine for a while (bar harbor). if any of you hip maine folks know of someplace cool to go or such. drop me a line.

      one last comment for now: why has tampa slid downhill??? is it me or what?? i loved tampa when i lived there, but i guess ya can't go home again (snif). even my favorite record store (the alternative record store) moved/closed. anyone know what's up with that??

    June 30, 1998

  • cEVIN'S DJ EXCURSION
    here's some info, 'cause i'm sure most of you didn't make it.
    • last friday cEvin took the controls at a club in San Fran. noddy9393 was there and took the whole thing in. below are some of his comments from the evening (snipped for your pleasure):

        cEvin Key did an incredible preformance at Catacombs. He remixed Worloc (the biggest dance floor hit), Tin Omen, Used the beat of Nature's revenge mixed with some techno tune, remixed KMFDM, and also swirled in VX gas Attack, but not the music (his own work), instead he used Ogre's lyrics and tweeked them out. ...

        ...and not only is one of the most pleasent people I have ever met, he is also one of the tallest. Since i am 5'9", he towered over me. A guess would be 6'5"....

        ...cEvin is totally oblivious to the fact (until i told him) that no USA stores are carring the Mixman soundsource CDS from Time & Space and that they have no record of it's release. ...

      noddy9393 also mentioned that Ryan Moore (LPD, Twilight Circus, Tear Garden) was also there and as reported, they are finishing up the new Tear Garden album. Thanks to our SF connection for the above info.
    • UPDATE - JUNE 22, 1998
    • PHILTH REVIEWS
        i've added yet another pair of reviews. as before, check 'em out here
    June 29, 1998

  • WHY NO NEW NEWS
    • sorry 'bout the lack of updates folks. i've been working on the road and it's been a bit difficult to get my mail or update the page. if you sent me mail, i didn't ignore it, i just haven't gotten it yet. expect sporadic updates this week (i'll be in tampa) and later in july also (i'll be in the great state of maine).
    June 25, 1998

  • OGRE ON NEW KMFDM ALBUM
    i hope i'm not jumping the gun on this...
    • am i sure he going to be on the new KMFDM album? nope, but i (and now you) was told he recorded two tracks for it. marty of Digital Intersect Magazine & Music distro clued me in by sending me the below e-vine:

        I've just finished doing an interview with Nivek Ogre for my 'zine Digital Intersect and he mentioned that he has recently finished recording two new tracks with KMFDM.

        The interview will be published in our Summer issue which will be published in mid-July.

      be sure to check out his page for info on how to get copies of the 'zine when it's out and some of the other stuff available there.
  • cEVIN KEY - DJ'N IN SAN FRAN
    do you live there?
    • check it out below...thanks noddy.

        To all you lucky San Fransisco California residents. On Friday the 26th of June, cEVIN Key will be DJing at Catacombs, a goth club located at the Transmision Theatre on 11th and Folsom. 21+
    June 24, 1998

    • UPDATE - JUNE 22, 1998
    • REVIEWS
        i've added another pair of reviews. check 'em out, plus the rest, here
    June 22, 1998

  • OGRE E-MAIL
    i've not seen one of these in a while.
    • seeing e-mails from Ogre has always been a rare thing, but lately they've been extremely rare. david flick was lucky enough to get a reply. there's no new info in the message, but i figured i'd post it just the same, below is a copy of the mail with the original question below it.

        Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 03:44:32 -0800
        From: Ohgrr
        To: T6F6W6O6
        Subject: Re: R

        ... as im sure you are aware Rx "Bedside toxicology" has been released on invisible. I start working this summer with Mark Walk on the resurrected WELT (renamed) project. Im excited about this. Should be an interesting piece technologically. Mark and I have also re recorded "Smothered Hope" for the upcoming Nettwerk re-mix record. no plans to tour until more material is gathered.

        regards
        ogre

        T6F6W6O6 wrote:
        > Are you gonna tour for the new upcoming Ritalin alblum?>
        thanks..Dave

  • BIOSYSTEMS UPDATE
    more info on the Download remix i mentioned yesterday.
    • well, fact is, it's biosphere's remix of other folks, not the other way around. todd of godsend online, set me straight with the below note:

        That "Biosystems" comp CD on Beatservice Norway is to be simply a comp of Geir Jenssen (Biosphere)'s remixes of other bands, including hisremixes of Download ("Attalal (Remixed by Biosphere)", from "Microscopic"), FLA, and others.
  • DOWNLOAD, KEY LYRICS
    Lyrics to Download albums plus cEvin's solo work.
  • RUMOR UPDATE
    normally i don't post rumors, but the source on these is good.
    • back on the 9th of this month i posted that cEvin may be working with Dimitri from Paris, well adjust that to be either Dimitri from Paris or Dj Vadim.

      also, it looks like Ryan Moore (LPD, Tear Garden, Twilight Circus) will be in LA next week to finish up the new Tear Garden album with cEvin. can't wait for that one.

    June 21, 1998

  • ARMITAGE 6 - SOUND SAMPLE
    try out this sample.
    • a while back david flick sent me a note saying he'd found a use for the mixman skinny puppy sample disc. he used it, plus other stuff, to create some tracks for his band Armitage 6. in the below sample clip he uses a drum beat from the sample disc, plus his own 303 and clips from hellraiser and some stuff from Haujobb.

      if you like the below clip and want to hear more you can check out his tape: 'Into the Machine' on digital intersect music distro. the cost is only $3 (us), a small price to pay.

      Hellbomb
  • DOWNLOAD REMIX
    this one is slated for october on beatservice.
    • it looks like we'll have a Download remix of a Biosphere track, and it'll be on the label beatservice. below is a clip from the news section of their page:

        In october, we are proud to present the Biosphere remix compilation Biosystems, including remixes of Nicolette, James, Download, Front Line Assembly, Illumination and Alanïa, plus new ones.
  • SKINNY PUPPY INTERVIEW - NOV. '89
    check out this very good interview.
    • most interesting, this interview was done by Stephen R. Gilmore, ya know, the guy who did some of the great SP album covers. this fairly huge interview was typed in by Set Sutekh, so be sure to thank him. check out the full interview here and below is a clip:

        STEVEN GILMORE: What about these rumors that Skinny Puppy are going to be splitting up then?

        OGRE: Well, one thing that I can say is that's probably the closest to the truth without being the truth that anybody could've said. Because Skinny Puppy to me, and I don't know if Cevin will agree, has always been on the verge of breaking up. If I believed in rumors I'd be dead of a heroine overdose. It's a lot of talk and talk can only be justified when it's actually seen. I think there's a lot of confusion right now and those things should be sorted out. I was in a state which isn't necessarily cause by this band but is caused by my life where I'm constantly looking at myself and hoping for happiness and thinking certain things were happiness and finding that it's not all what Walt Disney said it was going to be.

  • DOWNLOAD - NEU!
    you may want to check out this more promising tribute CD.
    • a man i need to thank more often, todd z of godsend online, dropped me the below e-bomb on this new comp. that Download is on. now i'm the first to admit: i have never heard neu!, but check 'em out i will do. below is a copy of the mail...

        Got the "CD, "An Homage To Neu!", and it's a winner. Includes tracks by Michael Rother, Download (An 8-minute reworking of "Hallo Gallo", which is quite faithful to the original, and subsequently not at all like recent Download--maybe a signal of a new direction???), Autechre, Dead Voices On Air, Khan, Sunroof, System 7, Legendary Pink Dots, James Plotkin, and Jeff Greinke. A great lineup and all exclusive tracks! This would make a decent starting point for anyone who's NOT familiar with this great German band... It's thru Cleopatra (but they didn't compile this one). Catalog # is: CLP-0300-2. It's 69 minutes in length.
  • PHILTH REVIEWS
    ...and they are all good.
    • first off, if you've not heard any of philth's album 'the escapist' head right on over to map records and check out the sound samples.

      robert shea blasted off a group of reviews from various sources regarding phil westerns new CD. check 'em all out here below is a clip from greg clow's review.

        Over the last half-decade, Vancouver's Phil Western has amassed a healthy back-catalogue of work, most of it in partnership with follow west coast electronic producers like Dan Handrabur and cEvin Key. The Escapist, however, is his full-length debut as a solo artist, and his first work under his given name (earlier singles and compilation tracks appeared under monikers like Cap'm Stargazer and Philth). This lack of anonymity is fitting since this album strikes the listener as an extremely heartfelt work, right from the very first spin. In fact, it's almost personal to a fault; as it careens from techno beats to dark ambience to tripped out live jams to experimental weirdness, it seems as if the thread that connects the whole lot into a truly cohesive whole is visible only to Western.
    June 18, 1998

  • DROPSTAr INFO AND SAMPLE SOUNDS
    Remember me mentioning this a while back?
    • At last, some real stuff on dropstaR. First off, dropstaR is a california band that consists of c. duanE gammill and a johnson.

      now the obvious question: what does this have to do with SP, Download or whatever???? besides being huge fans of Skinny Puppy and the related projects, the answer is twofold. The two samples below are currently unofficial remixes of Skinny Puppy's 'yo-yo scrape' and download's 'mzeo b.' the songs themselves are in music limbo as to when/where/if ever they will be released. Currently, hopes are we'll see 'yo-yo scrape' on the nettwerk remix album. Please note: these songs were taken from my horrible tape player at my home, they do not reflect the true sound quality of the songs themselves.

      yo-yo scrape       mzeo b

      Also, as noted on June 1st, we'll see dropstaR doing work with mark spybey on the subcon. sampler two (there's yer second reason) and on other future unnamed DVOA projects.

    June 17, 1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY SHIRTS
    new shirts for sale.
    • weathermen online is offering new Skinny Puppy t-shirts for sale. below are some descriptions of the new shirts and there are older ones available also. thanks to bill piper for being first with this info.

        If you are interested, these are 15.50 each and come in size XL

        you can order HERE or go to http://www.theweathermen.com/order or call it in 972-418-0931

        SKINNY PUPPY SKINLESS(1998)FRONT:
        Has a wicked drawing of 4 mutant people(alien looking creatures)each one is either screaming or holding some sort of weapon, looks like they were just skinned. It is a collage and has the skinny puppy logo in the lop left corner
        BACK: Has the Skinny puppy logo and around the logo in circular fashionare the words "skinny puppy"
        COLORS: Black shirt with darker colors on front and flourecent colorson back

        SKINNY PUPPY BLOOD RED(1998)
        FRONT: Has the words "SKINNY PUPPY" on the front in an oval in a blood type writing.
        BACK: Has the Skinny Puppy "SP" logo
        COLORS: Black shirt with red logo on front and red and green on back

        SKINNY PUPPY SCREAMING(1998)
        FRONT: Says "skinny puppy" at the top with with "SP" logo. underneath it are what appears to be octopuss or snakes with lots of mouths openscreaming... COOL!
        COLORS: Black shirt with reds, greens and browns.

    June 16, 1998

      UPDATE the ogre interview on virtually canadian is still not up. i, for one, have given up on it. alas....am i wrong?

      oh yea...any of you hear about those crazy fires in north florida????? well, that's right where i live! up until recently i could see the fire from my house, what fun. but i live and my house stands, will wonders never cease. in all seriousness, firefighters are tops in my book. as far as public servants go, i'll take a fireman any day over a cop, they actually HELP people.

    June 14, 1998

  • GODSEND STUFF
    what's new with todd over at Godsend online?
    • todd z, the man behind the great zine godsend online, has a handful of stuff going on. first off, his site has gotten a bit of a facelift, check out the new look. next, in the latest reviews section there's a quick Rx review among other stuff. below is a little clip:

        The diversity of "Bedside Toxicology" is a plus, as songs like "Crackhead Waltz" (a carnival loop/dirge that finds Ogre at his weirdest--and least successful) and the closer, "For Dusts and Mists", which is an excellent instrumental sound collage, illustrate. Ogre has taken a step forward with Rx, and I anxiously await his future projects.
      todd also let me know about a download track on another cleo comp. below are his thoughts:

        Just so you know, recently-released "Homage To Neu!" CD on Cleo DOES in fact contain a Download track, though I can't clarify the exact title (Key did do a version of "Hallogallo" though, so this must be it) as I don't yet have the actual CD (it's on it's way). The CD also is said to contain covers by DVOA, Legendary Pink Dots, Jeff Greinke, and others (though I'd bet Spahn Ranch and Hellfire Club will make an appearance as always;(). This looks to be a much more satisfying comp than the Puppy "tribute"/slaughtering...
      more exact info on that to follow.

      lastly, todd send me some info on the cEvin Key remix on a scar tissue disc. i got this a while back for some reason, i've never give it much of a listen. thankfully he did, below are more of todd's thoughts:

        Just (finally) got the Scar Tissue "Rebuild" CD, and it includes:

        "Cascade (cEvin Key/Subconscious Mix) 4:53

        Also, there's a little description in the CD liner notes by Steve Watkins of Scar Tissue, pertaining to each track. Here is his writeup on the Key remix:

        "As with most of the artists here, I sent cEvin Key a DAT containing many samples that were used on our last CD, "TMOTD", and some that were never used. The instructions I gave him (wow...I gave instructions to cEvin Key....damn, never thought that would happen) were to use whatever samples he wanted but to focus on those from the song "Cascade" and to make the remix "club-friendly", which means no noise-collage stuff. Well, the remix he turned in definitely has his "sound" and it is rhythm/percussion based, but I swear I can't identify a single sample of ours. I suspect that he tweaked them so heavily that they are now unrecognizable to me. (If anyone thinks they can identify a Scar Tissue sound, please email me). I thank cEvin immensely for allowing us to attach his work to our CD."

        --from the liner notes to SCAR TISSUE's "Rebuild" CD (1998 21st Circuitry 21C.35)

        SCAR TISSUE webpage: http://www.jps.net/devices/

    June 12, 1998

  • OGRE INTERVIEW DELAYED
    look for it on virtually canadian later today.
    • i picked up the below e-mail from epilogue.

        Subject: Ogre interview on Virtually Canadian
        From: TC
        To: epilogue
        Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 13:02:14 0000

        I apologize to those of you looking for the Ogre interview on Virtually Canadian. There was a problem in recording the initial live broadcast, but I'm told the 30 minute interview w/ music will be posted some time today (Friday). Go to http://virtuallycanadian.comand select the Exclaim Hour show on the finder. Details of the show are found on the Exclaim Electronics link from the Exclaim Hour page. If you need the Real Audio to hear the file you can download it from the VC index page. The interview will be published in the July issue of Exclaim, out in Canada during the last week of June, and then will be posted at http://www.exclaim.caduring the 1st week of July.

    June 10, 1998

  • COMPLETE Rx INTERVIEW - INTERFACE
    ...and today the whole 'thang pop's up.
    • first off, if you can, buy your own copy of interface mag., v12. much thanks to the anonymous typer who sent me this complete interview. click here for the complete interview, below is yer clip.

        For an upcoming Skinny Puppy remix CD, Ogre and Walk set out to simply remix 'Smothered Hope' and 'Dig it', when they discovered that the original tapes were missing or stolen. Instead, the team will likely be reconstructing the pieces entirely. "In 'Dig It', there were some pretty unintelligible parts. I was a Tuvan throat singer," Nivek jokes.
    June 9, 1998

  • Rx INTERVIEW INFO
    more info from the interface v12 Rx interview.
    • i picked up some more summary info from the interview with Ogre from interface mag. v12. it was posted by no body in epilogue. i snipped out part of the message, below is the good stuff:

        ogre's doc put him on ritalin to see what it's like.

        KY admin is about someone ogre strongly dislikes. though "not who you might think"

        Ogre and Mark Walk are going to re-record huge chunks of the WELT album before it comes out. Ogre and Walk are remixing Dig It, and SmoHope for the SP remix album. the master tapes were stolen/lost so they're totaly reconstructing them.

        ogre dosn't want to reunite w/ cEvin

        and a intersting bit a quote from ogre
        "The last Download I listened to was TEOSP, which struck me because it was a lot of out-takes from the process coupled with stuff Dwane did back in '93"

  • SMALL RUMOR
    another collaboration?
    • a well informed anonymous human has let me know that cEvin may work with Dimitri from Paris. more i cannot say...
    June 7, 1998

  • AP Rx REVIEW
    The Alternative Press gives it a stupid symbol (5 outta 5).
    • this months Alternative Press, Issue 120 has a few related adverts that offer no new info plus a review of 'bedside toxicology.' check it out below:

        Ogre + Atkins
        Bedside Toxicology

        Industrial-rock vets creatively invert the genre.

        This collaoration between former Skinny Puppy frontman Ogre and dervish drummer Martin Atkins is the industrial-rock album for people bored with the genre. Toxicology harbors interesting textures – rhythmic bombast; short, sharp tape scratches; hydraulic found sound; slasher-movie music; pastoral English countryside settings – and no tired power chords or samples cadged from movies rented from Blockbuster. Ogre uses very little vocal processing, concentrating on vocal melodies instead of falling back on the angry-parrot-with-distortion tricks he utilized over a decade ago. At his most lyrical, his delivery is reminiscent of Robyn Hitchcock's – and to think that for all these years we thought Ogre was a machine.

        The songs seem deceptively skeletal, yet they unfold into tense atmospheres. A cover of '60s pop icon Petula Clark's "Downtown" is reduced to an ugly trawl, yet the version of Syd Barrett's "Scarecrow" is whimsically straight. "Crackhead Waltz" is disturbed merry-go-round music last heard in John Wayne Gacy's crawlspace. "For Dusts And Mists" closes the album, giving time for the stalker sitting behind you to finish the job. There are no dancefloor-friendly tracks on this album; don't you have enough of that stuff anyway?

        The industrial genre needs more stylistic inversions like this in order for the music to rise above the hollow counterculture gestures. Bedside Toxicology is the result of two been-there, done-that artists who know how to use a calendar.
        (Invisible; dist. By Caroline)
        Jason Pettigrew

    June 6, 1998

    my grandfather, Raymond F Kettlety, passed away today before my eyes. he was a great man and i'll miss him dearly.

  • MORE PHILTH - PART TWO
    just to round out this subject.
    • ignore what i said about 'dutch flowers' in the last update. i was wack. the below quote from aaron campbell straightens out the 'mourning/purple passion' track info. thanks to aaron, mark weddle and simon paul.

        That track (mourning / purple passion) happens to be by Phil Western. It first appeared on Map Records compilation, Welcome to Lotus Land, in 1996 (Cap'm Stargazer aka Phil Western) ... then appeared in a slightly modified version on platEAU's Lp (Phil Western, cEvin Key, Anthony Valcic), Music for Grass Bars, last year... and once again appeared recently on Phil Western's own solo Lp, The Escapist, this year.. hope that clears things up for ya..
      that clip was from subconscious guest book. for more philth and off and gone info, remember to head over the off and gone home page. oh yea, also on the subconscious guest book, there's the below post from cEvin:

        Hey everyone, Please be aware that the SKINNY PUPPY SAMPLING CD IS OUT It is released throught Time and Space/ Zero G and is obtainable through their website. Ask your store to carry it . PlatEAU is now recording a EP as yet the label is undecided for distribution Also in the works is subcompilation #2 which will feature most of the subconscious family. Thanks for following us to our new locations check back for TOUR UPDATES and news regarding our planned series of fall shows. Super Silver Haze CEvin key
  • CEVIN ON R.M.I.
    how is the weed in so-cal?.
    • simon paul noticed the below post by cEvin on r.m.i.

        SKUNK WEED ?
        One bummer about living in Hollywood is PEOPLE PAY TOO MUCH
        another bummer about living in Hollywood is YOU CAN"T EVEN FIND IT
        yet another bummer about living in Hollywood is NOONE DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT

        ITS TIME :

        time to legislate the world trade value for THE INTERNATIONAL PRICE... HOLLAND and VANCOUVER are stabalized at a fair and sensible PRICE THAT PRICE SHOULD BE no more than 10-12 dollars a gram US. People are paying nearly twice the value of gold for POT here. IT IS CRAZY !
        Proven as a non violent drug, which has it's benefits to society Why are we legislating these moronic conditions to exist ? THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE SOCIETY.

        BIG BROTHER IS CONTROLLING YOU>

        subconscious communications

    June 4, 1998

  • MORE PHILTH
    something i didn't notice.
    • simon paul clued me into something i missed regarding 'the escapist.' as it turns out track 8 on 'the escapist,' 'mourning,' is a remix of plaueau's 'purple passion' on 'music for grass bars.' i completely missed that. i can't find my 'dutch flowers' single, does anyone have info on that mix of 'purple passion?" i wonder what the diff is??? is it me, or have we been seeing the same sounds/samples on a lot of projects lately?
    June 3,1998

  • PHIL WESTERN - THE ESCAPIST - MY REVIEW
    here's my take.
    • below are my thoughts. as usual, send any comments/flames my way.

        Phil Western
        The Escapist
        Map Records – MAP204-2

        Believe it or not, 'The Escapist' is a hard album to get a grip on. It's not that the songs are hard to follow or enjoy. The difficulty I found in assessing this album was classifying it. Is it techno, industrial, ambient or what? Because of it's similarity in sound, on the surface, with Download's 'III" it's even harder to classify. Don't let my confusion deter you, this album is great.

        The album begins with the track 'Hampi,' it's a good example of the overall album itself. It's a flowing, drifting, groove of a song that sounds like it could be a Download or Off and Gone track. After a few listens the subtlety of the track begins to take form. The bits of real percussion and excellent timing lend depth to the song, and once you notice that, behold; it's no longer similar to Download. Many of the songs are like that. At first listen, they sound like something you've heard before, but upon subsequent listens the individuality of Philth's effort is apparent.

        Now that's not to say this album is in completely new territory. In fact the end of the track 'Last Moments' is almost straight from Download 'III.' A good side effect of listening to 'The Escapist' is it makes it much easier to distinguish Philth's work on the Download albums.

        Overall the album is best taken as a whole. There are a few standout tracks like 'Hampi,' 'Sun Is Round,' and 'Full Moon.' But it's best enjoyed as a complete work. The balance and pacing is second to none, going from BPM and ambient and back again smoothly. I also found this album to be more emotional for lack of a better word. The occasional use of subdued vocals may lend to this feeling. Whatever the reason, some of these songs convey real emotion/feeling.

        The addition of real instruments, such as flutes and violins, is also very well done. As is the overall recording quality. I also found the artwork and photos interesting and fitting.

        Now, who's this album for? Did you like Download's 'III?' If so, run out and buy this right now. IMHO, it's better or at the very least as good. Do you like Off and Gone? Again, get it now. Are you a Skinny Puppy or Rx fan? Take a chance, I'll bet you'll end up liking it.

    June 1,1998

  • SUBCON SAMPLER TWO INFO
    get used to hearing about the band dropstar.
    • i need to get back to making tables for these things...but...over on the DVOA news page there's some info regarding DVOA's contribution to the upcoming Subcon Sampler Two disc.

      the band DVOA is working with is called 'dropstar.' it consists of c.duanE gammill and alex johnson. these guys were nice enough to drop me a tape of some of their sp/download remixes. frankly, i was blown away when i heard them. great stuff, i shit you not. look for some samples of 'em soon. anywhoo...below is the quote from the DVOA page:

        Mark completed two tracks for compilations in May. The first is a collaborative track for the second Subconscious Compilation, entitled "Rijn-Flower," it's the first fruit of Mark's involvement with the band called DROPSTAR from California. It goes under the " DVOA meets Dropstar " label.
  • SKINNY PUPPY REMIX RELEASE DATE?
    feel like guessing it?
    • over on the nettwerk home page under the 'nettcetera' section you can take a poll and guess the release date of the Skinny Puppy Remix album. Wheeeeee.... i know, one of those dates may be real, ummmmm, i'm guessing aug. 25th. it's right next to my birthday. thanks to Simon Speichert for pointing this out.
  • KILL TO CURE IN REAL VIDEO
    a live video is this hip unreleased song
  • May 31,1998

  • GNAT GNEWS
    clarifying Rx info.
    • ok ok, i couldn't resist using that stupid title. my bad. gnat, of invisible records was grand enough to answer a pair of pressing questions about Rx.

      how is Rx pronounced????? is is 'r x' or 'ritalin' or what? well...there is no real answer exactly. below are gnat's comments:

        For true ease, we still refer to it as "ritalin" over the phone and such, but when writing it, it's always "Rx" or the logo
      some of you, especially you european folks, have noticed there seems to be two different copies of 'bedside toxicology' available. obvious question, that's the diff??? again, below are gnat's comments:

        I know for sure that there are two versions. The second one was because it was licensed to both a German and an Italian company, which wanted to shift the track order a bit ("Scarecrow" is put at the end so that "K Y Re:amin" is track 1). Otherwise, no difference.
      lastly, a correction. back on may 19th i re-posted a r.m.i. post from Chris O'Toole that have possible Rx in-store tour stops. they are wrong. so don't call the locations asking for dates or whatever. as soon as there is some solid info, it'll be posted everywhere.
    May 29,1998

  • UPCOMING OGRE INTERVIEW - EXCLAIM HOUR
    this could be interesting, i like live interviews.
    • Chris Twomey sent me an e-vine making me aware of this upcoming interview. it's on virtually canadian and below is all the hip info as typed by Chris.

        Ogre will be interviewed by Exclaim newspaper's Chris Twomey at http://virtuallycanadian.com on Monday June 8th at 9 pm Eastern Standard Time. On Tuesday the interview will be posted for one week at the Exclaim Hour page at Virtually Canadian. More of the interview will be published in the July issue of Exclaim and posted at http://exclaim.ca.

      UPDATE ummmmmm, the interview's not live. so forget part of what i said above. check the interview out at 9pm est.
    May 27,1998

  • OGRE INTERVIEW - INTERFACE MAG
    summary info from Interface magazine.
    • it's my lucky day, i get a killer demo tape (more on that later), a copy of Unreal (a fab 3d shooter, if you've got a Voodoo card check this out, NOW!), and a great message from rorschach who writes for Interface magazine.

      below is most of rorschach's message to me. i found the part about ogre and walk remixing for the nettwerk sp remix album and that ogre's not ready to work with cEvin very interesting. for the full interview, buy the hard copy.

        since i write for interface, i would naturally prefer for everyone to goout and buy a copy... but i will share some of the more pressing bits because i know not everyone can or will get a copy...

        don't expect to be seeing a Skinny Puppy reunion. Ogre says he is not interested at this time, however expect him and Mark Walk to remix on the Skinny Puppy remix disk, but not under the name WELT, as it has been discovered another band is using the name. Ogre also says he wants workwith Walk on stuff, but walk is working on the new Ruby album.

  • HYMNS OF THE WARLOCK - REVIEW AND MORE
    ...and the reviews pour in.
    • bill has been busy working on his super page the vault of skinny puppy. there's a review of the cleo. tribute album (i've still not heard it yet, damn you digital underground) plus some real audio tracks. check it out. below's a clip:

        There are four songs I really like (EHC cover of Worlock, Download's cover of Download, Leæther Strip's cover of Testure and Death Ride 69's cover of Tormentor), four songs I truely can't stand (Spahn Ranch's cover of Dig It, Dead Voices on Air's cover of Love in Vein, Data Bomb's cover of Icebreaker and The Element's cover of The Choke) and the other five fall in between somewhere.
    May 24,1998

  • SUBCONSCIOUS SAMPLER TWO INFO
    cEvin makes another r.m.i. post.
    • it looks like in a few months we'll be dying to check out new unreleased subcon stuff. i've got a tiny bit of inside info on this for you that i hope to be able to spill in a little while. the rest speaks for itself. below is cEvin's post:

        SubConscious WEBSITE HAS MOVED TO http://www.jps.net/ckey

        SKINNY PUPPY SAMPLING CD just released on Time and Space /Zero Gravity UK
        Includes mixman PC sequencing software and CD rom of sounds.
        Also includes a full lengnth audio sampling CD. NOW IT's YOUR TURN !

        Subconscious Sampler PART 2 Featuring unreleased tracks by Download , Skinny Puppy , Doubting Thomas , Tear Garden , Kone Dead Voices on Air , Philth , cEvin Key ,PlatEAU , Legendary Pink Dots Twilight circus , Tweaker , Involution. For NETTWERK SUMMER 98

        SubConscious WEBSITE HAS MOVED TO http://www.jps.net/ckey

  • HOUSEKEEPING
    • interested in Skinny Puppy collectibles and rare stuff??? try checking out this link. check under 's' and try to justify that SP keychain. thanks to Segal Aharon for the link.

      mike ghost has added more detail, that i skipped, about the skinny puppy mixman sample disc. below are some stats:

        2 CD's
        1st CD= Comes with a Mixman LE Player/Recorder
        = 163 TRK's (for Mixman)
        = 163 WAV files, various kinds. Tons as you can imagine.

        2nd CD= Audio, just audio with 52 Tracks running at approximately 44:34 minutes

      if you've not been by the vault of skinny puppy lately, you should. there's a handful of new stuff to check out.

      there's talk on epilogue about a fan-made tribute/remix album. you can watch this page for info on what's going on and how you can get involved.

    May 23,1998

  • GREY MATTER RENAMED INVOULTION
    The cEvin Key & Paris project is still alive.
    • and we have the release date of 7/21/98. so far there has been very little info in this project since i became aware of it last year. It's going to be on the tone casualties label and it's featuring cEvin key and paris (of christian death).
    May 22,1998

  • SUBCONSCIOUS COMMUNICATIONS HOME PAGE HAS MOVED
    Be sure to update your bookmarks.
    • The subcon home page has moved to it's new home to match cEvin's move to CA. The new server seems to be faster also. check it out here.
    May 21,1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY - MIXMAN - MY REVIEW
    I decided to slag the first version and rewrite it.
    • Below is my take on time+space's Skinny Puppy Sounddsic. agree, disagree, want more info? just mail me.

        Mixman Soundisc – Skinny Puppy
        Time+Space

        Buyer beware, there are not any 'real' Skinny Puppy samples on this disc! Do not expect to be able to pull sounds from 'Worlock' to make your own remix. There are quite a few of Skinny Puppy-ish sounds and perhaps an actual (or very close to) sample or two on the disc. For example there seems to be the an actual sample from the end of 'Convulsion.' This was a huge letdown.

        The obvious question is: Why call it Skinny Puppy when there's no Skinny Puppy on the damn thing?!?!? Reason being, cEvin Key created a number of the samples. That would explain why many of the samples sound more like Download and Skinny Puppy. The rest of the disc was created by Zero-G. Who created what? I have no idea, but I suspect the majority was created/produced/touched up by Zero-G.

        As to the program itself. Have you used Rebirth or Hammerhead or the like? If so, the Mixman LE (it comes with the disc) works like that. Is it professional quality? No way, don't even consider using it for something like that. Keep in mind the LE version is not the full version. The full version may be much better, but that's beyond the scope of this review. Basically it operates like this, it's quite simple, you pick the BPM's (beats per minute) you want the song to run at. Then load up the samples you wish to use. Then pick from one up to sixteen of the samples to run. You can interactively start and stop the samples at any time. There's also a handful of effects, like delay and reverb you can use. You can also import your own custom .WAV files. The Mixman itself uses a proprietary format for storing it's sound files called .TRK. So far I've not found any other program that can use or manipulate these files.

        Upside? It is simple to use and with the sound library you can create right away. It's got a good number of drum, bass and keyboard samples. The samples themselves are pretty good, but them not being Skinny Puppy was quite a disappointment. And it should work well on most machines. I ran it on my P2-266 and a P-133 and it sounded fine on both.

        From what I've seen of the LE version, all in all, Mixman is very 'been there, done that.' Add that to not using 'actual' Skinny Puppy samples makes this disc a hard purchase to justify. Overall I'd say pass on this.

    May 20,1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY - MIXMAN - REVIEW
    here's a fine review from a reader.
    • first off, if you (who just happens to be reading this now) feel inclined to review anything new you've picked up and would like me to post it. just send it. this page is all about sharing info and such. as long as it's not moronic (why do i have to say this?) i'll post it. frankly, i love hearing other opinions.

      Dave Armitage 6 picked up the Mixman SP disc and felt so moved to write a review. not that dave is wrong, but i'll post my review in a few hours, so don't think we disagree when you read 'em. whatever, check it out below:

        Well first off let me say to all those strictly interested in the SP disc, you don't have to order mixman. It comes with it it, although if you were like me you ordered both(which is pretty cool you get some cool samples,esp.breakbeats.)

        Samples: Well they sound a bit more Downloadish to me than puppyish. Althoughthe basslines are classic puppy. Overall, all the samples are very technoish,but otherwise pretty cool. The cd also comes with an audio cd. The samplesconsist of Bass,cymbols,guitar,kicks,pads,Rythmic efx,sound efx,voice efx,chords,drum loops,hats,music efx,percussion,snares,synths,and zaps.Overall the only really puppy trademarked sounds that I've found are the basslines, and a couple of the signature, heavily distorted drums. Overall it'salot of fun to get your creative juices flowing.

        The mixman itself is to me, really cool. I mean it has stereo quality andit's pretty easy to use. Also if you are like me and you are a musician, youcan make wav files out of your synths by plugging them into your soundcard andrecorded them through mixman.So if your like me and you don't like all thatdifficult sequencing stuff like Cubase and Cakewalk it's the way to go.I meanyou can make samples out of your own keyboards, drum machines etc.and add samples over it and spice up your tunes man!. Also it's an easy way to getthat "CD" sounding quality instead of that beat up amp you've been using forfive years.

        My only complaint about mixman is this.If you alter your wav files,then the mixman cannot read them, so if you'regonna sample the X-files, don't change it up. Also it doesn't really work wellwith Rebirth, I mean I make a drum line up make it an audio file and I can'tput it into the mix ya know.

        Well to all
        B R A P O N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Dave Armitage 6
        "245 Trioxin"

  • HYMNS OF THE WARLOCK - REVIEW
    another good review from mark.
    • did someone piss in mark's froot loops or is it that bad? below is mark weddle's review of Cleopatra's SP tribute album 'hymns of the warlock.' if ya like mark's style, check out his homepage.

        Well, first off, Cleo has fucked up the tracklisting (whata surprise). Tracks 3 and 4 are actually reversed on the cd,what I have below is the correct tracklisting. I haven't found any obvious mis-spellings ... yet. The artwork is just stupid. Closeups of a hand with an eye in it, someone's nose and a tattoo I think ... huh? Inside is liner notes by Dave Thompson with a few interview snippets from Atkins and Ogre ...

        The music is, well, bland at best. I just don't give a shitabout these bands (and most other bands in the so calledindustrial "scene"). Why do the vocalists for all of thesebands suck so bad? Besides, covering songs that are so great to begin with is really just silly ...

        1. Frontline Assembly "Dead of Winter" (Hypothermic Mix) - typical FLA, could fit on any recent FLA album ...

        2. Spahn Ranch "Dig It" - this is actually kind of interesting, they used some unusual instrumentation and decent programming instead of a guitar overload like I was expecting ... still sucks in comparison to the real thing though ...

        3. Razed in Black "Assimilate" - metal Assimilate with cheese keys ...

        4. The Electric Hellfire Club "Warlock (Truth Decay Version) - fairly close to the original, if you think Ogre can't sing then you really ain't gonna like the EHC guy ...

        5. Pygmy Children "Tin Omen" - god, this is wretched. Kind of make's it dancy, but it sounds like a shitty noname garage-industrial band doing a SP cover ...

        6. Leather Strip "Testure" - one of the best covers imo ... you've probably already heard the mp3 ... it's hard to make such a great song bad ...

        7. Crocodile Shop "The Choke" - I can't remember the original well enough to compare, but this sounds pretty cheesy ...

        8. Download "Download" - ah yes, this would be the reason I bought this pile of dung. Sounds pretty much like the studio version on LR, it's about 9:00 long and has a few different touches (like Spybey's vox in the last minute), but for the most part Key hit "play" on the DAT ...

        9. Kill Switch...Klick "Addiction" - bland, really shitty vocals ...

        10. Death Ride 69 "Tormentor" - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ... Oh man ... cyber-cheezed "electronica" Tormentor ...

        11. Dead Voices on Air "Love in Vein" - bizarre ... Spybey whispering pitch-shifted vox over a typical DVOA backing ... bears little to no resemblance to the original ... not very good ...

        12. Data Bomb "Ice Breaker" - cheese-o-rama ...

        13. The Element "The Choke" - choke Dance Party USA ... cheese, horrible gothlike vox ...

        Yep, this disc sucks alright. Do yourself a favor ... don't buythis. I fucked up. I should have known better. I thought the Download and DVOA tracks would be enough to warrant the purchase, but they really aren't ...

        Fuck the pretenders ... go listen to the real thing instead.

    May 19,1998

  • Rx REVIEW AND POSSIBLE TOUR STOPS
    another review, this time from r.m.i.
    • this is also a good review and i figure the whole thing is worth printing. i'm not sure at all about the validity of the places where ogre and martin may stop. anywho, below is the whole smear.

        Rx - Bedside Toxicology INV 091
        Street Date: May 19, 1998
        INVISIBLE RECORDS

        Track listing / Time:

        1 Scarecrow 1:42
        2 K Y Re:amin 4:49
        3 Reuptake 3:40
        4 Downtown 4:57
        5 Imago 4:20
        6 Crackhead Waltz 3:02
        7 The Daze 5:14
        8 And When 4:27
        9 Idle Contact 3:41
        10 Exfoliate 5:14
        11 For Dusts And Mists 4:37
        Total Running Time: 45:43

        Credits:
        Produced by Martin Atkins
        Additional post production by Chris Greene
        Mix Engineers: Chris Greene and Scott Ramsayer
        Violin on Downtown by Chris Greene
        Additional Guitar on And When by Jason McNinch
        Dobro guitar on Exfoliate by Jason McNinch
        Additional Programming and Keyboards by Lee Bagman Fraser

        "Scarecrow" starts this album, and is a complete throw off of how the rest of it sounds. It's basically just Ogre singing with an acoustic guitar. However, I believe I may have come to a conclusion as to why it sounds so different. The credits to the songs in the album say it was written by "s. Barrett", whom I'm assuming is the late ex-Pink Floyd singer, Syd Barrett. Now I know jack shit all about Syd Barrett but my hunch is this song originally sounds something like this possibly.

        Next, or the song we all heard at the Invisible Records "Lowest Of The Low" tour (if you were there) that was playing along with the "Ritalin" or "Rx" video was "K Y Re:amin", and most people have said that it resembled "Asphole" (a song from Pigface's "Notes From Thee Underground" release, which Ogre also did the vocals for.) This song is quite straight forward, the usual Mr. Atkins type of percussion and a repetitive bassline to go along with Ogre almost talking the vocals until the chorus (so to say) kicks in, and his voice changes to a semi-screamy style as the percussion speeds up and gets a bit more complex. They do a lot with the vocals on this song, because in parts of this song there are people in the background humming a harmony along with delayed panned bits of rhythm.

        After that comes "Reuptake," which is started with Ogre's vocals only and slowly twisted together darker multiple keyboard tracks and basic slow hammering bass kick beat (like from a drum machine.) From there the song progresses into a quicker tempo beat which Mr. Atkins probably crafted and delayed vocals. Watch out for the odd over powering distortion part to help the beat along for about 3 seconds, which is very effective in heightening the climax of the song. It then drops off, almost as if throwing you off a cliff with all parts coming to an abrupt hault except the vocals which continue a quiet-mellow harmony for about 10 seconds ending the song. Not to make another Pigface comparison, but when this song hits full tilt and starts moving, it reminds me of something from the "Fook" era, but the constant changes in the song stray away from the Pigface feel a tad.

        "Downtown" follows next, and as you may have guessed it is a cover of the classic song Petula Clark once sung. Of course this version is nothing like the original though, the only similarities being the lyrics and at times them playing the riffs on keyboard, or guitar (which is under some neat effects and sounds awesome). I was very surprised to hear this, knowing the classic song and all, but it defently makes you want to smirk and play it for your parents. One thing that got me also, is that the vocals effects sound very close to the ones used for "Spasmolytic" (a Skinny Puppy song from the album Too Dark Park), minus the distortion. It's good to hear Ogre say "Downtown" once again though, even if it isn't in the same reference.

        "Imago" is probably my favourite song of this album. It starts with delayed blunt noises hitting a number of times, and flows peacefully into singing "down in the back and around the corner," while I'm assuming it's Ogre who starts talking about how he "came to a conclusion" and "tasted something sweet." A basic kick drum thumping enters (like from a drum machine) and switches between that and Atkins drumming a straight forward beat. The rhythm stops and the blunt noises come back for a bit, and then you hear a guitar and just Ogre's voice repeating the same lines as earlier, and it all sharply kicks back in. While all this is going on you can hear trails of keyboard sounds. The song drops off once again, while the talking keeps going, as the vocals become loud and you hear "they tent to creep in and they destroy," that rings on delayed as guitar, keyboard and the noises come back and then stop to the guitar ending the song. That description may sound a bit confusing, but you'd have to hear the song to understand what I'm saying, I think.

        "Crackhead Waltz" is probably the strangest song on the album. It is a heavy vocal song with bell type keyboard effects. Also, there are noises in the background that give a feel of a record playing backwards (even though that's not what it really is). Basically the whole thing sounds like a demented carnival song with very dark lyrics. A beat kicks in later as Ogre repeats "better off dead," as the song mellows out to quiet vocals repeating the same line, and then the record playing backward type sounds fade out the song. Some of the sounds seem like they would make Coil proud.

        "The Daze" follows, beginning with heavy synth type sounds going from high treble to lower bassey EQ changes and Ogre singing. The sounds continue on throughout the song as later the vocals become loud and distorted and seem to be changing different effects while Ogre sings. The voices then divide up as the distorted sounding ones take one part, and the others continue to sing. The sounds then become intertwined with each other into noises which finish the song.

        "And When" is another strange song for all the changes that happen in it. A lot of keyboard sounds, vocals and an up beat kick drum enter. More percussion and synth lines join as the song then hits it's climax with guitars overriding everything, and goes to a space-rock type sound with keyboards complimenting the guitars. It ends with a bit of a sample repeated through the whole song of someone saying "are you home. are you there?"

        "Idle Contact" is the quickest paced song on the album. It's got a straight forward Atkin's style drumming, guitar, and keyboard sounds as Ogre's voice navigates the song. The biggest changes in this song are that parts take turns and become stronger then others. Later in the song many other vocal track come in to accompany the main ones, and the song ends. A pretty basic song, but great none the less.

        "Exfoliate" is after that. It begins with a loop fading in, keyboards and quicker paced drum machine bits following. It mellows out a bit, with warm bass hums and Ogre singing and gets crazy from there with loud distorted noises (complimented with Ogre screaming) interrupting the vocals, joined by a clean sounding guitar. The vocals go through different effect changes, as the noises follow sparatically. It all gets mellow once again, with just the vocals, then starts up with backwards Atkin style druming. The madness stops once again as the loops that started the song ends it.

        The final song "For Dusts and Mists" which actually starts at the end of "Exfoliate" and continues onto the 11th track is one of the most interesting songs on the album. The song to me sounds like someone eating cereal under a lot of delay effects. I could be wrong, but it defently resembles that. It then moves onto a dark sounding piano playing along with it, and mixing into quicker tempoed electronic sounding synth lines. A very loud distorted trebally noise flows in with mild percussion for the apex, making the song seem relaxing yet chaotic, and then stops sharply, as the mellow piano and cereal eating delay sounds slowly die off. The dark sounding piano plays on for a bit and then fades out as a gentle noise hits and then the album finishes.

        ...And that's all folks.

        One similarity I've noticed in most of these songs is that there seems to have been a lot of playing around in the studio. The way they mess with the rhythm on most tracks is in the same vein as how they do it on "A New High In Low" (the newest Pigface album). There is also a fetish on this album (which I love, I must add) with delaying the percussion and vocals at points, which makes the song flow really well and sound more dynamic. They also seem to have doubled up on most of Ogre's vocals. The vocals are a very main piece of the music, sometimes it seems like the music was made around them, and why shouldn't it, they're great! Interesting to say the least.

        The artwork lines the whole album, it's a digipack case. The cover has a rectangle with "Rx" and "bedside toxicology" which is a bit off center and text that you can't read behind it. All this is lying on a dark brownish black blurred picture of a little girl (or at least, that's what it seems to be). It is very Dave McKean looking (see Front Line Assembly's - Hardwired, or the newer Download releases). I also believe some of the figures in the pictures are Ogre. Also, behind the CD tray there is a red medical X, with a wacky collage. My only problem with it is that no lyrics are included, but then again it's not very hard to make out the words, so maybe that's why they chose not to include them.

        I'm not going to put a rating on this, but it's a solid all around album and the production is great. It is defenetly worth buying and big Ogre / Atkins fans might even like it more that I have.

        Ogre and Martin Atkins are going to be doing a North America wide (and possibly even beyond) meet and greet session just after the release of this album. No dates or places are fully confirmed as of yet, but here is what has been planned.

        location's removed. why? 'cause they're not accurate.

        Bye Bye,
        Chris O'Toole
        Invisible Rep. Extraordinaire

  • WELT NEWS
    will wonders never cease, i didn't expect this.
    • there is a hip little article on allstar daily news regarding Rx and the future of WELT. it's so interesting i've decided to post the whole 'thang. plus below is a little pic from the clip. mark weddle saw this first and posted it to epilogue.


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        Those who have been pondering the whereabouts of former Skinny Puppy frontman Ogre have reason to rejoice.
        Bedside Toxicology, the debut album from his new project with Martin Atkins called Ritalin, is due Tuesday (May 19) on Chicago- based indie Invisible Records, and Ogre is planning a new project with producer Mark Walk under the name WELT, with recording to commence in July.
        WELT actually have one album already under their belts, but it has not seen the light of day since it became lost in the ownership turmoil surrounding their previous label, American Recordings. "At the time all this went down, we never talked directly to Rick Rubin," says Ogre. "I think what needs to be determined right now is who owns the rights to the songs."
        One would think that the artistic frustration of having your work in limbo might well up in musical form. But the appropriately- titled Ritalin is a project of a more subdued nature, although it does possess some industrial crunch. Bedside Toxicology finds Ogre vocalizing without his trademark distortion, and with collaborator Atkins concocting a sonic elixir that is equally organic and electronic.
        The 11-song disc opens with Ogre's trippy acoustic rendition of Syd Barrett's "Scarecrow," while the nursery- rhyme- on- acid that is "Crackhead Waltz" offers a twisted mutation of vocals, an orchestral sample, and minimal percussion. And the electronic tribal stomp of "Idle Contact" is an effective exercise in restrained angst.
        "I'm at that point in my life where that confrontation, that unmitigated anger for anger's sake, has been quelled to try and pursue a different vocal style," says Ogre. "That comes from my own personal searching around, noodling around with just an acoustic guitar or simple electronic set-ups. Not really trying to rise above an already huge wall of noise, but trying to create an atmosphere within a lot more of a sparse environment, building up to something a little more cacophonous."
        Does this mean we're seeing a kindler, gentler Ogre? "I've only ever done what felt natural to me, be it totally unnaturally high on drugs or whatever," he chuckles. "Skinny Puppy was 13 years of real- time generating of feelings and dealing with the aftermath of that. So it was hard to reflect back on that then. Now there are other things I want to look at, and that certainly doesn't exclude me from wanting to do harder dance music and things like that. There's a time and place for that, but this record evolved naturally and took on a life of its own."
        Ogre is aiming to write more Ritalin material before that group can hit the road, finding only one album's worth of material too limiting. "I also want to do a show that has a little more production to it," he says. "I want to do something using a multimedia format. It's totally up in the air, but the conditions have to be right."
        He also hopes that his current Ritalin plans might dovetail into the upcoming WELT sessions. "I'm hoping that Martin will want to work with Mark on this next thing, and we can keep going and step it up a little bit and keep it fresh. They have worked [together] before. Idealistically, I'd like all of us to be one big happy family if it keeps going. If it doesn't, so be it."

        -Bryan Reesman

  • HYMNS OF THE WARLOCK - OUT NOW
    most mail order outfits and many stores should have it by now.
    • i just ordered mine from the digital underground. it was $14.99 plus $4 for UPS ground shipping. time for a minor prayer: 'oh lord, let this release be better than the usual Cleopatra cover album. amen.'
  • THE ESCAPIST - REVIEW
    it's short but consise.
    • i know, i know, i need to finish my review. it's a hard album to peg, but i'll finish it soon. this review is from a little new e-zine called electriq. the review of phil western's 'the escapist' is here and a older review of cEvin key's 'music for cats' is here. below is a little quote i like. saw this on epilogue.

        This album should not be listened to for individual songs, but as a whole. Genres span from ambient to techno to industrial.
  • HOUSEKEEPING
    • we've got a pair of little things to mention:

      Godsend Online has moved to a new location. it's one of the cream-of-the-crop on internet mag's. check it out here.

      Version 12 of interface magazine has a Rx interview. if any of you good folks can pick up an issue and scan the interview for me i'd be very thankful.

    May 17,1998

  • COVER ART - Rx - BEDSIDE TOXICOLOGY
    At last, i scanned the whole thang.
    • ya know, just click for a bigger view. and on a side note i have to say: i continue to like this album more and more. start to finish a quality album through and through. if you don't yet have a copy, get it as soon as the stores have 'em (or order from the Rx home page. you won't be sorry.


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    May 14,1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY - MIXMAN
    the poop on getting it.
    • ok first off, hit the time+space home page or dial 800.411.4655 in the US (not sure if this is good for you northern folks, so dial 415.392.8933 if the 800# doesn't work) and 01837 841100 if yer in the UK. The US price is $39.95 plus $6 for two day shipping and $10 for overnight. i'll check it out on friday/saturday and post my initial thoughts, followed by a full review soon. and yes, i know i owe you folks at least three reviews now. i'll do them soon, i promise, along with the Rx scans any moment now. thanks to mike ghost for keeping me on this.
  • CEVIN KEY ON USENET
    from rec.music.makers.synth we have a post from cEvin.
    • perhaps you can help cEvin out. below is a copy of his post with e-mail addy. thanks to simon speichert for pointing this out.

        wanted to buy:
        sequential circuits studio 440 drum machine in working order.

        ckey@jps.net

    May 13,1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY - MIXMAN - OUT NOW
    i got so busy, i forgot to post this yesterday.
    • yes it's true, the SP you-mix-it disc it out. it's shipping in both the US and the UK. for those of you in other places you'll have to order it from the closest place to ya, and have it shipped. go to time+space for more info right now. i'll post the rest of the info (price, etc...) late thursday, plus other unrelated stuff. i'm re-building a pair of computers right now and i can't stop 'till their done. oh yea, i'm listening the 'the escapist' right now, great disc, look for my review soon.
  • CEVIN KEY - DJ FOR A NIGHT
    I'm not sure if this is true, so grab yourself a grain of salt.
    • i saw this info on epilogue. check out the below website and pick the 17th from the calendar section for a little more info. can any of you SoCal folks out there confirm this?

        May 17th: cEvin Key of Skinny Puppy guest Dj's, spinning the music that inspired him

        Fang Club, 665 N. Robertson in West Hollywood. Doors open at 10pm.

        http://www.fangclub.com fangz@pacbell.net (818) 848-7937

        $6 cover 21 & over

    May 12,1998

  • Rx - REVIEW
    Another opinion surfaces, and i'm sure i'll have many more to post soon.
    • i'm not sure i agree 100% with this review. but life's like that. check out the industrial information station for a Rx review. it under the current spins section. below be a clip...

        Now that the introductions are over, what does it actually sound like!?!?Ogre provides some more of his excellent verbal ramblings with his own truly unique style (check the disturbing "Crackhead Waltz"), electronics are fairly minimal on this release, relying mainly on the percussive talents of Martin.
  • COOL STUFF IN THE LATEST ALTERNATIVE PRESS
    The latest issue of the Alternative Press is chocked with good stuff.
    • the june '98 issuse #119 of the alternative press has a cEvin Key review, and some other stuff.

      first we've got the review of 'music for cats,' it got a 'thumbs up' (i hate ratings, just review the damn thang and let us decide on our own).

        cEvin Key
        Music for Cats

        cEvin Key seems more willing with each album to leave behind the experimental aggression of his former band, Skinny Puppy, in favor of exploring less structured ambient directions. The departure in form of Download's III from previous releases hinted at the formless construction of Music for Cats, which tellingly subtitles 'a subconscious electronic orchestra.' Former bandmate Dwayne R. Goettel's death has clearly been a major impetus. Notably, III was the first Download album not to list him as a member. But even here, Goettel contributes from beyond the grave, providing synthesizers on the frenetic 'Herbalist Rule,' the speaker-spanking 'Inside Jam World' and three others that are easily the album's densest, most propulsive tracks.

        A veteran of numerous collaborative projects, Key still seems to be deciding what to do on his own without Goettel and Download cronies Genesis P-Orridge, Mark Spybey, Philth, Anthony Valcic and Ken Marshall. This vacillation makes for an interesting album that will likely baffle expectations of both Skinny Puppy and early Download, while still exhibiting Key's abundant creativity. Soft, morphing stereophonic synthesizer tracks are spiced throughout with samples, occasionally joined by Genesis' vocals and underpinned by subtle percussion. The last two tracks are the most intriguing: 'Grah Statikcat [Electrodes]' weds pulsing electronics to a slow-build, bittersweet synth line; 'Full Circle' invokes a tribal vibe given a haunting gothic treatment and additional gravity by Ashok Sarkar's chanted vocals. Call it chapter one of cEvin Key's newest incarnation.

        Metropolis, POB 54307, Philadelphia PA, 19105
        C.G. Parker

      From 'Wire Tapping' with a little pic of Skinny Puppy 'Too Dark Park' era:

        Industrial mavericks Skinny Puppy will be the subject of a different kind of tribute album. The record will contain remixes of Puppy tracks created by a bevy of respected artists. According to executive producer Jeff Antebi, the album will feature mixes by Autechre, Chris Vrenna (Tweaker, Nine Inch Nails), Adrian Sherwood, Ruby, Josh Wink and former Frontline Assembly member Rhys Fulber. Anteb's company, Waxploitation, sets out to invite artists from all genres, citing that 'It just didn't seem exciting enough to have the usual suspects doing remixes.' Antebi said the album, set for release on Nettwerk, may be out this year.

      From the bottom of a Cleopatra advert, text only,

        V/A: Hymns of the Warlock
        Skinny Puppy are responsible for helping to create an entire music genre and influencing a generation of musicians. The tribute features tracks from Download, Frontline Assembly, Leather Strip, Razed in Black, The Electric Hellfire Club and others covering the band's best known songs.

        There's also a full page advert for Rx. It does have artwork, but I'm not going to scan it. It's just the album cover with some text in the background. I'll post the complete scans from 'bedside toxicology' soon, that should cover what ya need to see.

    May 10,1998

  • COVER ART - PHIL WESTERN - THE ESCAPIST
    Here's the whole inset except for the CD itself.
    • the CD's black with just the title and artist printed on it. so yer not missing anything. all in all the art is very good. the detail of the photo's used is fairly high, i spent quite some time checking the whole thing out. for more info, go to the map records home page. anywho, below are the thumbs and click on 'em for a bigger view.


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  • NEW Rx WEB PAGE
    It's the first fan page that i know of.
    • swing on over to this Rx page. it's got a handful of info, all in once place. i'd expect this page, and pages like it to grow quickly as new Rx info becomes available. thanks to page owner afra.

    May 8,1998

  • GOD LIVES UNDERWATER - SP REMIX ALBUM
    Should i make a chart of known remixers for the album?
    • major contributor todd zachritz picked up some news from mtv news website. below is an excerpt from the march 6th, 2pm update.

        Underwater God Lives Underwater will be popping up on the pending Skinny Puppy remix album, and the band is also organizing what's turning into a major tribute to Depeche Mode.

        Project manager Jeff Antebi confirms that GLU will be participating on the as yet unnamed Skinny Puppy record for the Nettwerk label, but adds that a specific song has yet to be chosen. GLU will be joining fellow Philadelphian Josh Wink (song TBA) along with Chris Vrenna ("Assimilate"), Adrian Sherwood ("Tin Omen"), Autechre (TBA), Rhys Fulber ("Worlock") and Ruby ("Smothered Hope").

        Antebi says he's looking for artist-oriented remixes and expects to add another three to five tracks to the record. There's no release date or album title at this time.

        Skinny Puppy were pioneers of the industrial goth genre and stood shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Ministry and Nine Inch Nails. They were first formed in 1982 and disintegrated in the early 1990s.

  • Rx LYRICS
    Almost the whole album is transcribed.
    • mark weddle has done a wonderful job of transcribing the lyrics to 'bedside toxicology.' you owe it to yourself to check 'em out here. after checking out marks page it occurred to me that this album is, lyrically, Ogre's most accessible to date. i almost miss the near unintelligible bizarre lyrics of past.

    May 7,1998

  • MY Rx REVIEW
    First impressions on 'Bedside Toxicology'.
    • below is my take on Rx. as usual, if you have any comments, flames, corrections or whatever, send 'em to me.

        Rx - Bedside Toxicology
        Invisible INV091

        At long last the much anticipated Ogre & Atkins project has been released. This is the first full length release Ogre has done since Skinny Puppy's 'The Process.' This begs the obvious question: was it worth the wait? You bet it is.

        The album begins with a Syd Barrett Pink Floyd cover, 'Scarecrow.' As if to demonstrate that this is not Skinny Puppy, the track is just Ogre, acoustic guitar and an occasional drum beat. Is the track 'Scarecrow' about Ogre himself and his Skinny Puppy image? Ogre, like the subject of the song, can appear menacing and dangerous from a distance. But upon close inspection, harmless. Ogre, when speaking about the yet to be released (if ever) W.E.L.T., said Skinny Puppy was about masking oneself. The unmasking of Ogre begins right away with the opening track.

        The following two tracks 'K Y Re:amin' and 'Reuptake' are both good songs that could have been right at home on a Pigface album. And like 'Asphole,' from 'Notes from the Underground,' they could very well have ended up being the best tracks on the album.

        The fourth song on the album is another cover song. This time its 'Downtown.' I can't recall were I first heard this song, but as soon as you hear it, you'll know it.

        There is only one instrumental track, 'For Dusts and Mists.' Oddly enough, to my ears it's the must Puppy-like of all. It's filled with interesting sounds you just can't place. Ice in a glass being rattled, hoof beats, or wood wind chimes being held together?

        'And When' is a powerful track in the same vein as 'Cult' from 'The Process.' It begins slowly with vocals as the focus then peaks forcefully at the end. There's also a good dose of base at the end of this song.

        Martin Atkins has done a great job with his collaboration with Ogre. The drums are, as expected, solid and clear. Not over the top at all, as I feared they might be. With additional work from other Invisible label guys, Lee (Bagman & Sheep on Drugs) Fraser and Jason McNich, the songs are well filled out and not sparse or overdone.

        The album can be abrasive at points, but not overly so. In fact, some of you many find it too, ummm, friendly, for lack of a better word. The production and sound quality is top notch as is the CD case itself. Steven R Gilmore has done the cover art. It's very good, but not on par with a classic like the art from 'VivisectVI.' It features overlapping text and distorted pictures of a woman. My favorite part is the portion behind the CD itself.

        There's something for every Skinny Puppy fan in this album. But make no mistake, it's not Puppy and doesn't try to be. Thank God. It is, at last, a step out from behind the shadow of Skinny Puppy for Ogre. A misstep it's not by any means. There is no reason for you to not buy this album. You won't be sorry, even if you're more of a Download fan than Skinny Puppy. It's hard not to like.

    May 6,1998

  • MIXED NEWS
    Rx, AP and scanner.
    • well, i got my copy of 'bedside toxicology' yesterday. i've only had a chance to play it on my way to work today. first impression? outstanding! i never thought i'd get the album and know the first tracks words by heart already (scarecrow). and ogre covering 'downtown'? look for more reviews soon. if you want to get a copy early, use the Rx obtain page. those invisible guys (and gals) sure do ship it out quick.

      todd zachritz let me know there's some SP remix, tribute, and Rx stuff in the latest issue of the alternative press. as soon as mr. mailman drops me my copy, i'll post the stuff.

      and i got a replacement scanner, so look for coverart of the Rx and phil western new albums soon.

    May 5,1998

  • SKINNY PUPPY - MIXMAN - SAMPLE
    A sound sample and a new release date (tomorrow).
    • now i'm not sure i trust this release date, but what the hell, it's may 6th. you can find the sound sample and a little more here. just click on the logo then pick the 'soundisc' section. from there hit the skinny puppy disc. thanks to mike for this info.

      UPDATE i just spoke to the time+space u.s. distro. here's the deal, they are out in the UK right now, you should be able to have one sent to you today or tomorrow. us u.s. folks will have to wait 'till the beginning of next week before they are ready to ship to n. america. i'll keep a close eye on this and let you know for sure when they're shipping.
  • Rx - REVIEW
    Mark Weddle is first to drop in his .02.
    • all around good guy mark weddle posted his review to Rx's 'bedside toxicology.' check it out below. for more review and other hip stuff, be sure to check out his home page.

        Rx is Ogre and Martin Atkins with Lee Bagman Fraser, Chris Greene and Jason McNinch.

        Overall impression: excellent. Ogre is back, finally, and he isn't relying on his past to blast him through the future. No Puppy, no Pigface ... this is Rx. It's a whole new thing. Sure, there's the trademark Martin Atkins drums and the fluid Ogilvie voice, but this album sounds quite different from past endeavors. Most of the album is very vocal centered, some very noisy parts, some quiet parts, lots of bizarre analogue bleeps, blurbs and beats, some guitar and some violin. The production is top-notch, a lot of attention to detail and some really great effects, sounds, layering, studio tricks, etc are utilized throughout. They took some cool risks on this album too, several tracks standout: "Scarecrow" is a Syd Barrett cover based solely upon Ogre's vox and acoustic guitar, "K Y Re:amin" is the "Asphole"-ish track they played on the Lowest of the Low tour (I wish I had the 10,000 watt system at home!), "Reuptake" reminds me of the "Our Swimmer" cover that Ogre/Rieflin/Walk did for the Wire "Whore" tribute awhile back, "Crackhead Waltz" is a bizarre music box-like tune, and "For Dusts and Mists" is a clanky instrumental that could fit on a Throbbing Gristle album. For some odd reason, I didn't "get" most of this album until after about a half dozen or so listens ... I suggest you do the same. It just clicked for me all of the sudden. It's going to get much more rotation on my cd players than Key's "Music For Cats", that's for sure. The packaging/artwork looks great too (as always with Invisible). My only minor complaint is how shortthe cd is. A great start for Rx, recommended and looking forward to more ...

        As always, the above is my opinion and is copyright-free. Do with itwhat you will ...

    May 4,1998

  • Rx - PRODUCTION INFO
    Alien Soundscapes, where Rx was mixed/mastered/produced.
    • interested in where the final work on 'Bedside Toxicology' was done? well then check out Alien Soundscapes, Inc. it looks like there will be more stuff to come on this page. i'll keep an eye on it. below is a clip from the e-mail they were kind enough to send me:

        We are Alien Soundscapes, Inc. aka ASI if you've seen the Rx diskcredits. We are the studio where the mixing, mastering, and productionof Bedside Toxicology took place. Keep checking back as we may adddetails of equipment/software used for our part of the project, plusnews of other new releases etc...
  • SUCKS TO BE ME
    • i've had a bit of a bad run lately. i'm sorry to say my home system has been down due to an upgrade from hell. for some reason i thought it'd be a good idea to drop in a new motherboard in my home machine while finishing up a huge project at work. lesson learned, don't try to do too many things at once. short version: my SCSI controller doesn't work correctly with my new motherboard and i can't get to any of my data (yet). i've lost about 300 messages, so if you sent me something and i've not responded, recently, it's very likely i didn't get it. please, if your so inclined, resend any messages to me. oh yea, i'm still working 12 hour days catching up, i hope to be back on top of everything later this week. ...and, my scanner went down also, i should be able to post pictures again as soon as i grab another one.

      quick point: thanks to robert shea of map records for sending a copy of Phil Western's 'the escapist.' i've been so busy i've hardly has a chance to hear it, but so far it sounds great. look for a full review and more soon.

      ...and Rx is now shipping pre-orders in the US! hopefully i should have mine any moment now...